Villa Park Redevelopment

[FatSam]

Apparently Ellmanton are one of the main bidders as well.

Please God no.

[Beard82]

In terms of facilities, I was amazed at Edgbaston they had this "self-serve" beer pouring. 

Every tap had a member of staff next to it.  Watching a member of the public pouring their own pint, then fixing it when they fucked it up.

Pretty certain that's the definition of insanity.  Having trained bar staff watch members of the public serve themselves on a 1-1 basis.  Purlsow would be proud

It goes without saying I poured my pint perfectly

[The Edge]

In what was were any of the plans a vanity project? We need a bigger capacity and better facilities and the plans seemed to deliver that.

The idea that Villa Live would be a seven days a week venue.

Better facilities for match days alone would be nice though.

I appreciate things change when the people at the top change but it’s a bit deflating.

Would there be the market for matchday? It's a big project for twenty half-days a year.

You'd of thought they would of done their homework on the Villa Live project before releasing official renders of the work. It must be viable surely?  After all the excitement they created it will seem like a big let down if they just revamp a crappy old factory building that is Stumps. Once they commit to that it will be there for decades. Dare I say it smacks of Deadly Doug type antics?

[Des Little]

No mention of the farmers market? Heck out!

[tomd2103]

I wonder if there is a bigger conversation going on? If we can't improve the transport links (look at the farce around the University station and Camp Hill stations)  it sort of limits the size of the ground on the current site.

Yes, I also wonder if it is within the realms of possibility that that kind of conversation is going on and whether things like commercial opportunities might be better in a different location like the city centre.

[Flin5tone]

We were sold a dream of a badge the fan base could get behind and bit stadium improvement.

At this rate I can see us sticking with the dreaded shield and jet washing the north.

Just when you think we're moving in the right direction we do this. Livid

[Gareth]

In terms of facilities, I was amazed at Edgbaston they had this "self-serve" beer pouring. 

Every tap had a member of staff next to it.  Watching a member of the public pouring their own pint, then fixing it when they fucked it up.

Pretty certain that's the definition of insanity.  Having trained bar staff watch members of the public serve themselves on a 1-1 basis.  Purlsow would be proud

It goes without saying I poured my pint perfectly

Insanity is having hopeless staff pouring plastic bottles of beer into plastic glasses with no clue how to pour it properly as I watched in the Witton Upper more than once last season :-)

8000 extras on the roads and rail at full time….gonna improves the match day experience immensely

[Axl Rose]

We were sold a dream of a badge the fan base could get behind and bit stadium improvement.

At this rate I can see us sticking with the dreaded shield and jet washing the north.

Just when you think we're moving in the right direction we do this. Livid

[Villan For Life]

They can learn from Edgbaston on major match days albeit with a much smaller crowd and the c

In terms of facilities, I was amazed at Edgbaston they had this "self-serve" beer pouring. 

Every tap had a member of staff next to it.  Watching a member of the public pouring their own pint, then fixing it when they fucked it up.

Pretty certain that's the definition of insanity.  Having trained bar staff watch members of the public serve themselves on a 1-1 basis.  Purlsow would be proud

It goes without saying I poured my pint perfectly

Edgbaston gets much smaller crowds and has more bars, on major match days there are more temporary bars which are away from the stands which would not work at Villa Park.

I still queued 40 minutes at the test match because click and collect drink ordering wasn’t working.

[Brazilian Villain]

All seems a bit half arsed and watered down.

It does indeed, and after the half-hearted new badge and shirt release it is as Flin5tone says, a bit of a mess.

Still, I'll reserve judgement until I see the details and renderings of the updated plans.

[pauliewalnuts]

Without getting into histrionics, after being pumped with ideas of the future, it does smell a bit of Dougonomics.

That’s probably harsh but I feel the messaging could do with a bit of improvement.

Feels like end of the season the momentum was massively positive but - in time honoured fashion for us - since then it has been deflation.

No new stand till transport fixed. No Villa Live, let’s paint what’s there. Fuck the badge we got you to vote for.

I know that sounds miserablist but we’ve been here several times before.

Let’s have some good stuff.

I could be even more paranoid and raise how this has all emerged post season ticket renewal deadline.

[PeterWithe]

I’m not at all confident that, if they just tart up Stumps, the VillaLive thing will ever happen in my lifetime.

[pauliewalnuts]

I’m not at all confident that, if they tart up Stumps, that the VillaLive thing will ever happen in my lifetime.

I think you're right.

TBH it's not really the existence or not of Villa Live that bothers me - I would almost certainly never use it anyway - it just feels like we've had decades of scaling back of ambition and cheapness, and it doesn't take much to start feeling that way again.

[tomd2103]

I’m not at all confident that, if they tart up Stumps, that the VillaLive thing will ever happen in my lifetime.

I think you're right.

TBH it's not really the existence or not of Villa Live that bothers me - I would almost certainly never use it anyway - it just feels like we've had decades of scaling back of ambition and cheapness, and it doesn't take much to start feeling that way again.

We have had a major upheaval in senior positions at the club this summer.  The new people have only been at the club a month or so and it is understandable that they may want to put some major projects on hold while they assess them.  I want to see a long term strategy and am OK if the new people want to take some time to understand the full picture. 

The only one where the clock is seemingly ticking is the North Stand redevelopment if the UK and Ireland get the Euro 2028 tournament.  Even then, that is tied in with the Council redeveloping the train station. 

I must admit that North Stand redevelopment aside, I'm much more concerned about what we are doing on the pitch over the next few years than things like Villa Live.

[maidstonevillain]

In terms of facilities, I was amazed at Edgbaston they had this "self-serve" beer pouring. 

Every tap had a member of staff next to it.  Watching a member of the public pouring their own pint, then fixing it when they fucked it up.

Pretty certain that's the definition of insanity.  Having trained bar staff watch members of the public serve themselves on a 1-1 basis.  Purlsow would be proud

It goes without saying I poured my pint perfectly

Is it a licensing requirement?