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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #495 on: May 28, 2021, 02:18:58 PM »
What was the mooted capacity under the Lerner plans, 52k?
50,734 according to those images



Where are these plans/images?
In the post above


I've been censored - I cant see anything!

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #496 on: May 28, 2021, 02:55:36 PM »
Have you got your glasses on?

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #497 on: May 28, 2021, 02:57:09 PM »
What was the mooted capacity under the Lerner plans, 52k?
50,734 according to those images



Where are these plans/images?
In the post above


I've been censored - I cant see anything!
London Villans post above has 5 images attached to it.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #498 on: May 28, 2021, 03:19:26 PM »
I reckon work have  firewalled the images.

Outrageous.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #499 on: May 28, 2021, 03:28:18 PM »
Max capacity with that plan 50,734.

I'd rather the 50,198 with a stand alone North Stand option.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #500 on: May 28, 2021, 03:30:46 PM »
Yes, same here. Maybe wrap it on the lower corners but leave the claret wall as a stand alone up top.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #501 on: May 28, 2021, 04:12:53 PM »
Ive posted these before, but they were the more detailed plans under Lerner.










Looks better than I expected tbh.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #502 on: May 28, 2021, 06:46:31 PM »
Do any of the current stands lend themselves to safe standing?

The Lower Holte would be ideal.  Adding maybe 2-3k to the capacity and also adding to the atmosphere.  Having googled it, Xia reckoned that two areas of the lower holte could be used.  Might as well do the whole thing and avoid issued with standing/sitting in the same stand. 
« Last Edit: May 28, 2021, 06:55:54 PM by Dante Lavelli »

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #503 on: May 28, 2021, 07:35:57 PM »
Do any of the current stands lend themselves to safe standing?

The Lower Holte would be ideal.  Adding maybe 2-3k to the capacity and also adding to the atmosphere.  Having googled it, Xia reckoned that two areas of the lower holte could be used.  Might as well do the whole thing and avoid issued with standing/sitting in the same stand. 

Someone more qualified than me will be able to confirm but I don't think you could increase the capacity of an already built stand by converting it to safe standing as the capacity is dictated by the safety certificate which is driven by entrances, exits and concourse areas.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #504 on: May 28, 2021, 07:37:18 PM »
Correct.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #505 on: May 28, 2021, 07:45:35 PM »
When we first looked at the idea the lower Holte Trinity corner was going to be the trial area. Capacity can't be increased for the reasons Ad@m outlined.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #506 on: May 29, 2021, 12:04:50 AM »
Ive posted these before, but they were the more detailed plans under Lerner.










Looks better than I expected tbh.
im surprised a stand-alone stand option 3 seems to be the best value option. $16m cheaper than option 1 with only about 700 less seats.

re there any images available of it?

The images of options 1 & 2 look great
« Last Edit: May 29, 2021, 02:54:59 AM by robbo1874 »

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #507 on: May 29, 2021, 12:21:04 PM »
I thought about rebuilding the north stand with a big single tier and renaming it the Holte but it wouldn’t be right.

When the new Holte was built I don’t think we could build over the road but they subsequently let the new Trinity be built over the road.  So I reckon with a slightly wider and squarer shape we could get 20k.  Do Dortmund fans complain about the view at the back of their stand??
No they don't but if you think about it the Holte holds 13,500 which is around 7,000 less than the Yellow wall but it's way narrower so the height is probably very similar. I'd love to see 5he actual stats for both stands. I'm a bit of a football ground nerd.
Looks like the Yellow Wall has a couple of corners if you look closely - so maybe they include that in their capacity.

Anyhow with a bit of ingenuity they could build a 20k single tier Holte and it would be full.
The corners are definitely added to the capacity of the yellow wall. At a guess I'd say the corners add about 7/8,000 between them . Much like the old Kop at Liverpool. It held 28,000 officially but it wrapped right round both sides of the ground so for me it wasn't a true figure of an "end" like the Holte End was. First time I saw the Kop for myself I was shocked how small it was compared to our Holte End.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #508 on: May 29, 2021, 12:56:08 PM »
Yeah, that slice into the Holte from the road intrusion needs to be corrected, maybe it’s a touch of OCD but it does bug me.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #509 on: May 29, 2021, 01:11:32 PM »
Yeah, that slice into the Holte from the road intrusion needs to be corrected, maybe it’s a touch of OCD but it does bug me.
If they can build over the road this slice could be turned 180 and so getting slightly bigger at the top.  Do this on the Witton Land side and you could get a huge single tier.  Build it and they will come. 

 


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