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Offline Ads

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #375 on: April 18, 2021, 01:31:21 PM »
I think realistically it's only going to be possible to do the North and the Holte, given the space constraints of the Witton Lane.

I'd personally do a phase 1 of knocking the North down and add extra capacity with a lower tier that wraps around with the Trinity lower/middle tiers and has enclosed upper area in for tier 2 that traps noise.

I'd be adding facilities for the Witton in here so the concourse space, both upper and lower Witton, can be greatly increased. That would solve the main issues with that stand. A sort of block behind where the wrap around would be at "R" block entrance now.

Phase 2 would be to make the Holte a 22k single tier beast, with again wrap around of lower tiers and enclosed upper areas to trap noise.

You retain 4 stands, you add 17,000 to take us to 60,000, dramatically improve facilities in the Witton Lane and create one of the noisiest grounds in the country.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #376 on: April 18, 2021, 03:32:58 PM »
Ads, you’ve got the contract. You start tomorrow.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #377 on: April 18, 2021, 03:37:09 PM »
Ads, your idea for the Holte is spot on, it loses something being split upper/lower and the move to a single raked stand is essential, rail seating as an added bonus.


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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #378 on: April 18, 2021, 05:25:08 PM »
He had me at “22K single tear beast”.

My word, can you just imagine being part of that?!

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #379 on: April 18, 2021, 06:22:07 PM »
How feasible would it be to reconfigure the Holte into a single tier without having to bulldoze the whole lot?

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #380 on: April 18, 2021, 06:31:14 PM »
No. The North cannot eclipse the Holte.

It would only be temporary until we rebuilt the Holte to be even bigger!!

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #381 on: April 18, 2021, 08:53:35 PM »
No closing the Holte End. Sort the North Stand and the Witton Lane out, they're both shite.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #382 on: May 10, 2021, 05:52:33 PM »

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #383 on: May 10, 2021, 06:09:51 PM »
Sort that shitey Witton "can't buy a drink" Lane out, too.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #384 on: May 10, 2021, 06:11:09 PM »
Sort that shitey Witton "can't buy a drink" Lane out, too.

Sort that fucker out first, thank you.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #385 on: May 11, 2021, 10:55:56 AM »
I think realistically it's only going to be possible to do the North and the Holte, given the space constraints of the Witton Lane.

I'd personally do a phase 1 of knocking the North down and add extra capacity with a lower tier that wraps around with the Trinity lower/middle tiers and has enclosed upper area in for tier 2 that traps noise.

I'd be adding facilities for the Witton in here so the concourse space, both upper and lower Witton, can be greatly increased. That would solve the main issues with that stand. A sort of block behind where the wrap around would be at "R" block entrance now.

Phase 2 would be to make the Holte a 22k single tier beast, with again wrap around of lower tiers and enclosed upper areas to trap noise.

You retain 4 stands, you add 17,000 to take us to 60,000, dramatically improve facilities in the Witton Lane and create one of the noisiest grounds in the country.
This is the dream.  Not sure they'd be able to wrap the lower part of the Holte with the Trinity unless they move the road though.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #386 on: May 12, 2021, 01:50:29 AM »
I think realistically it's only going to be possible to do the North and the Holte, given the space constraints of the Witton Lane.

I'd personally do a phase 1 of knocking the North down and add extra capacity with a lower tier that wraps around with the Trinity lower/middle tiers and has enclosed upper area in for tier 2 that traps noise.

I'd be adding facilities for the Witton in here so the concourse space, both upper and lower Witton, can be greatly increased. That would solve the main issues with that stand. A sort of block behind where the wrap around would be at "R" block entrance now.

Phase 2 would be to make the Holte a 22k single tier beast, with again wrap around of lower tiers and enclosed upper areas to trap noise.

You retain 4 stands, you add 17,000 to take us to 60,000, dramatically improve facilities in the Witton Lane and create one of the noisiest grounds in the country.
I love the idea of a single tier 22k Holte but it wouldn't be feasible. It's hemmed in now by the Trinity Rd itself which causes it to narrow from the right as you look from the pitch. It would have to follow that line to a ridiculous height and would be very narrow at the top. Unless of course the council would allow us to purchase a chunk of Aston Park and move the road over but again I really don't see that happening. We're hemmed in at that corner which gives us all sorts of issues.
« Last Edit: May 12, 2021, 02:06:26 AM by The Edge »

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #387 on: May 12, 2021, 04:30:10 PM »
We could build over the road in the same way we did with the Trinity.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #388 on: May 12, 2021, 05:11:42 PM »
Would using 20m or so of the park be that much of a disaster?  I know there's a number of trees etc, but in the context of the size of the park, the history of Aston Villa etc and the role the club plays in the community and could play in upgrading the area, would that be too much to ask?

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #389 on: May 12, 2021, 05:12:53 PM »
With that said, I'd imagine redeveloping the Holte would be way down on any list of the clubs priorities.

 


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