Villa Park Redevelopment

[Dante Lavelli]

Not seen this before, nicely done. Esp the bit with the transition from the 1910s (or whenever) photo.

thanks Paulie.  It’s a sublime stadium and watching that makes me grateful we’ve not gone down the retail park bowl route.  It feels more real, like a church.
No wonder Villa Park is most teams’ favourite away ground.

[Smirker]

Get the roofing of The Holte matching the new North, with those lights at the top also.

The chaotic roof really bothers me.

[VILLA MOLE]

I also think Witton Lane Stand looks small compared to the other 3 stands ,  i hope we can develop it sympathetically

[Flin5tone]

I like the addition of greenery at the rear of the North Stand. I think we should also be looking to incorporate wildlife areas around the villa live building.

[eamonn]

Will the Villa Live building be big enough to do whatever it is we want to do with it?

[olaftab]

Great video that. Thanks PW. Sooner we make it full monty 60,000 the better.

[London Villan]

Thats about it in terms of size, the extra seats come from installing rail seats.

[VILLA MOLE]

Thats about it in terms of size, the extra seats come from installing rail seats.

Can you fit more with rail seats ?

[rob_bridge]

I also think Witton Lane Stand looks small compared to the other 3 stands ,  i hope we can develop it sympathetically

The Witton Lane is actually small in terms of seats - about 9k IIRC which for a side is small. Both ends will be c15k once North Stand done.

Long term we could do with increasing the depth of Witton Land stand by the width of the road at least and adding another tier. That would bring the ground towards 60k if we wanted to. Assuming we stay in top tier and look interested I would hope we can fill over 50k per game.

[KevinGage]

I also think Witton Lane Stand looks small compared to the other 3 stands ,  i hope we can develop it sympathetically

The Witton Lane is actually small in terms of seats - about 9k IIRC which for a side is small. Both ends will be c15k once North Stand done.

Long term we could do with increasing the depth of Witton Land stand by the width of the road at least and adding another tier.

Get your point. But part of the character of VP is having bigger stands behind the goals than along the pitch.

[algy]

Thats about it in terms of size, the extra seats come from installing rail seats.

Can you fit more with rail seats ?

From what I remember, it depends on how they're installed ... but potentially you can up to a 50% capacity boost.

The up to is the thing there, though.  Fortunately to go from 50k to 60k you're looking at, what, an extra 20% ... so it might be possible but I'd guess would need extensive rail seating to be installed.

[pauliewalnuts]

Thats about it in terms of size, the extra seats come from installing rail seats.

Can you fit more with rail seats ?

From what I remember, it depends on how they're installed ... but potentially you can up to a 50% capacity boost.

The up to is the thing there, though.  Fortunately to go from 50k to 60k you're looking at, what, an extra 20% ... so it might be possible but I'd guess would need extensive rail seating to be installed.

I think that is wrong.

In the UK they are only allowed on a 1:1 basis.

Read that somewhere the other day.

[PeterWithesShin]

Pretty sure I read that one issue with rail seating increasing capacity is that most grounds are now either new or have rebuilt stands from when being all seater was the law. So amenities etc wouldn't pass the required certificates if capacities were increased, well unless more amenities are somehow added to concourses. And that's even if future safe standing regulations do allow more than a 1:1 in the first place.

[London Villan]

It how we’ve said we are going to get to 60,000 capacity.

[PeterWithe]

Is that a club produced video or done off their own back by the production company?

If the former, a few thoughts, the Villa Live thingy isn’t as big as I’d imagined that it would be, as a concert venue is that going to be big enough?  What is that green area at the back of the new North?

And the pedestrianised area where Witton Lane is now, as seen on the drawings,  that’s not on the animation. The amount of seats in the new upper North on the Witton side is restricted by the current position of Witton Lane and the current height of its stand roof, do we have to accept that’s a restriction that’s not going to change?