Quote from: algy on March 19, 2023, 10:55:04 PMQuote from: VILLA MOLE on March 19, 2023, 09:28:38 PMQuote from: London Villan on March 19, 2023, 09:21:48 PMThats about it in terms of size, the extra seats come from installing rail seats.Can you fit more with rail seats ?From what I remember, it depends on how they're installed ... but potentially you can up to a 50% capacity boost.The up to is the thing there, though. Fortunately to go from 50k to 60k you're looking at, what, an extra 20% ... so it might be possible but I'd guess would need extensive rail seating to be installed.I think that is wrong. In the UK they are only allowed on a 1:1 basis. Read that somewhere the other day.
Quote from: VILLA MOLE on March 19, 2023, 09:28:38 PMQuote from: London Villan on March 19, 2023, 09:21:48 PMThats about it in terms of size, the extra seats come from installing rail seats.Can you fit more with rail seats ?From what I remember, it depends on how they're installed ... but potentially you can up to a 50% capacity boost.The up to is the thing there, though. Fortunately to go from 50k to 60k you're looking at, what, an extra 20% ... so it might be possible but I'd guess would need extensive rail seating to be installed.
Quote from: London Villan on March 19, 2023, 09:21:48 PMThats about it in terms of size, the extra seats come from installing rail seats.Can you fit more with rail seats ?
Thats about it in terms of size, the extra seats come from installing rail seats.
To get a big increase on capacity with rail seating we would basically have to rebuild the stand - you can't just have 20K people in an area designed for 13.5K for lots of reasons, not least the stand won't have been designed for all of the extra weight.
Love the vid. The North Stand improvement is welcomed but looking at that it does look very boxy to me, not much architectural flair at all. Maybe it will look better in real life once it's done.
It's not just a case of putting in rail seats and ta da, an extra 5k capacity (as an example). As Pat says, weight is an issue. The Holte wasn't designed and built to take 18-20k fans, it was expected it wouldn't change from the approx 13,500 it holds. And then you have the amenities, turnstiles, toilets, concourse size, refreshments (yes I know), fire exits and so on. Again none of those were designed for the extra capacity.
Is the discussion around any safe standing areas off the agenda?