Italian football is in a state. Just look at the stadiums, they’ve pretty much been left to ruin. It’s not overly surprising those fans after battle weary and beaten down.
Quote from: PaulWinch again on April 25, 2021, 05:20:04 PMItalian football is in a state. Just look at the stadiums, they’ve pretty much been left to ruin. It’s not overly surprising those fans after battle weary and beaten down.Almost none of the clubs own their stadiums - they're instead leased to them by the local government, which is why teams in so many cities (Milan, Rome, Genoa, Verona) share their stadiums. And local government, construction, maintenance and so on is....well it's a long story here, let's put it that way.
Quote from: john e on April 25, 2021, 05:13:37 PMQuote from: Hockley Lion on April 25, 2021, 04:09:53 PMPerez may have played a blinder if the naughty 9 have to pay huge financial penalties to escape the ESL. It could go some way paying off the debts of the remaining 3. I'd be interested to know who's to get the blood money.Also, if there is to be any European exclusion of these clubs it has to be all of them. Otherwise those not excluded will gain an advantage in the next competition.One thing that surprises and disappoints me is that Barcelona got into bed with Real Madrid at any level. There is not the same anger about it in Spain or Italy as there is hereEspecially with the fans of the clubs involvedThere wasn't at first in Italy, but after seeing the English fans get mad the fury definitely built among the tifosi of the left-behind. The trouble is Italians are quite used to being fucked over and not being able to do anything about it, so their reaction to something like this was always likely to be pessimism and resignation. It picked up though.
Quote from: Hockley Lion on April 25, 2021, 04:09:53 PMPerez may have played a blinder if the naughty 9 have to pay huge financial penalties to escape the ESL. It could go some way paying off the debts of the remaining 3. I'd be interested to know who's to get the blood money.Also, if there is to be any European exclusion of these clubs it has to be all of them. Otherwise those not excluded will gain an advantage in the next competition.One thing that surprises and disappoints me is that Barcelona got into bed with Real Madrid at any level. There is not the same anger about it in Spain or Italy as there is hereEspecially with the fans of the clubs involved
Perez may have played a blinder if the naughty 9 have to pay huge financial penalties to escape the ESL. It could go some way paying off the debts of the remaining 3. I'd be interested to know who's to get the blood money.Also, if there is to be any European exclusion of these clubs it has to be all of them. Otherwise those not excluded will gain an advantage in the next competition.One thing that surprises and disappoints me is that Barcelona got into bed with Real Madrid at any level.
Serie A have passed a rule to ban any clubs who join a non-FIFA-sanctioned tournament. It isn't the punitive measures some want, but it is something. And hopefully that prick Agnelli will be annoyed.Hopefully the Premier League and other leagues can do similar.
Quote from: cdbullyweefan on April 26, 2021, 06:44:19 PMSerie A have passed a rule to ban any clubs who join a non-FIFA-sanctioned tournament. It isn't the punitive measures some want, but it is something. And hopefully that prick Agnelli will be annoyed.Hopefully the Premier League and other leagues can do similar.It's a good first step, but the absolute bare minimum. Personally I'd happily consign the 6 to a watery grave - relegation to League 2, with a 120pt deduction. Two of them definitely playing non-league football in 2022/23, the other 4 being in the wilderness for at least 4 seasons. Big fines, and absolutely have to abide by FFP rules (which should start generally bite in League 1/The Championship for the 4, assuming they manage to dig themselves out of their hole quickly enough).
To be fair to them both, they're absolutely right when they say that spending hundreds of millions of euros on new players each season when your income isn't guaranteed (due to pesky competition) isn't sustainable.
The sooner we know the punishment for the scabby 12 the better.It could mean the difference of Villa getting in transfers from the big 12 or having to scout the lower leagues again. Expensive squads + big debt = Bargain Basement.Hurry up Premier League, Uefa etc, get your finger out.
Quote from: Baldy on April 27, 2021, 10:09:38 AMThe sooner we know the punishment for the scabby 12 the better.It could mean the difference of Villa getting in transfers from the big 12 or having to scout the lower leagues again. Expensive squads + big debt = Bargain Basement.Hurry up Premier League, Uefa etc, get your finger out. What kind of punishment are you expecting, Baldy?