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Offline Hockley Lion

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #1530 on: April 22, 2021, 02:41:00 PM »
https://reclaimourgame.com/

All their requests seem reasonable enough to me. Hopefully they or another organisation can keep up the pressure for reform and, at the least, persuade UEFA to rethink the horrible Champions League reforms.

I'd like to think the fan power that prevented the creation of the Scab League would be the start rather than the end of a movement for change.

Reads well to me too. Thanks for the link.

Offline Ad@m

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #1531 on: April 22, 2021, 02:41:45 PM »
In summary, the EU took the Spanish government to court (and won) on the grounds giving taxpayer money to football clubs constituted state aid.

Clearly, not having access to a bottomless pit of money was never factored into Real or Barca's business planning...

Offline Hockley Lion

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #1532 on: April 22, 2021, 03:15:54 PM »
Real Madrid should pay off their massive debts. They're like addicts needing a fix and stealing from their family to pay for it. They can't be bailed out by government anymore but they're behaving the same way. They're hording players as much as anything to prevent them playing for their opponents, and bankrupting themselves to stay on top. Even being at the top doesn't create enough wealth in the Chumpions League. It's sickening.

Forcing them ( and others ) to pay their debts by selling players or be wound up would distribute better players throughout other teams making the competition more open. This would have the same effect in domestic league's too as non SUPER teams would also benefit from some of these players.

How can it be good for football when every week brilliant players are sitting on the benches all across Europe. Surely getting all these players on the pitch for many more teams would improve both the game and dare I say it, viewing figures.

Break their stranglehold and save our game.

Utv

Offline Damo70

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #1533 on: April 22, 2021, 06:08:28 PM »
Real Madrid should pay off their massive debts. They're like addicts needing a fix and stealing from their family to pay for it. They can't be bailed out by government anymore but they're behaving the same way. They're hording players as much as anything to prevent them playing for their opponents, and bankrupting themselves to stay on top. Even being at the top doesn't create enough wealth in the Chumpions League. It's sickening.

Forcing them ( and others ) to pay their debts by selling players or be wound up would distribute better players throughout other teams making the competition more open. This would have the same effect in domestic league's too as non SUPER teams would also benefit from some of these players.

How can it be good for football when every week brilliant players are sitting on the benches all across Europe. Surely getting all these players on the pitch for many more teams would improve both the game and dare I say it, viewing figures.

Break their stranglehold and save our game.

Utv


I am not surprised by the actions of the odious Real Madrid and their equally odious president Florentino Perez.
They are just continuing their historical arrogant repugnant nature.

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #1534 on: April 22, 2021, 06:31:49 PM »
I see mes que un club are similarly making pigs of themselves.

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #1535 on: April 22, 2021, 06:58:41 PM »
I've always disliked any club that calls itself "the people's club" or any variety thereof. Sanctimonious wankspawn.

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #1536 on: April 22, 2021, 07:04:48 PM »
I've always disliked any club that calls itself "the people's club" or any variety thereof. Sanctimonious wankspawn.

“This means more”. Copyright Liverpool FC.

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #1537 on: April 22, 2021, 07:05:03 PM »
The truth is 90% of European Cup matches and indeed International matches are meaningless, unbalanced and boring to watch. Radical, but why not scrap them altogether?

Why not combine the two. Instead of representing your Country you represent your League. The direct football family.

Using Europe as an example, the finishing top ten clubs from the proceeding year from (say) England, Germany, Spain, Italy, France and Holland play each other in a tournament, home and away, and within a league format.

Corresponding position within League play each other. Three points for a win, one for a draw, As an example and based on last years league positions, when England play Italy the line-up of fixtures played over three nights would be:

Liverpool vs Juventus
Man City vs Inter
Man Utd vs Atalanta
Chelsea vs Lazio
Leicester vs Roma
Tottenham vs Milan
Wolves vs Napoli
Arsenal vs Sassoulo
Sheffield Utd vs Roma
Burnley vs Fiorentina

Overall scoreline could be 5-5, 6-4. 7-3, 8-2 etc (Half point each for a draw). Winner gets 3 points in overall league, 1 point if a draw in overall league.

Other federations worldwide can form their own groups of countries/leagues if they so choose.

It is radical but would make great viewing, be more balanced, get more clubs involved in Europe, end mid table mediocrity, share the burden and still retain the essence of national pride.

Thinking outside the box but just a thought. ::)

 
« Last Edit: April 22, 2021, 07:13:37 PM by Baldy »

Offline Ad@m

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #1538 on: April 22, 2021, 07:05:18 PM »
To be fair to them both, they're absolutely right when they say that spending hundreds of millions of euros on new players each season when your income isn't guaranteed (due to pesky competition) isn't sustainable.

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #1539 on: April 22, 2021, 07:36:39 PM »
To be fair to them both, they're absolutely right when they say that spending hundreds of millions of euros on new players each season when your income isn't guaranteed (due to pesky competition) isn't sustainable.

Life and business can be so cruel sometimes.

Offline Ad@m

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #1540 on: April 22, 2021, 07:58:01 PM »
To be fair to them both, they're absolutely right when they say that spending hundreds of millions of euros on new players each season when your income isn't guaranteed (due to pesky competition) isn't sustainable.

Life and business can be so cruel sometimes.

I know!

If only everyone else could see how important they are.

Offline Hockley Lion

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #1541 on: April 22, 2021, 08:16:02 PM »
I agree that 90% of games are pretty meaningless except to the fans of the teams involved. If funds were more evenly spread so would players be. Imagine more PL teams having access to players who currently grace the benches of the Big 6 every week? That'd be at least 2 quality players per club who'd probably walk into most of the 14 remaining clubs 1st teams per match. That'd mean more good players on the pitch at all games. Now wouldn't that be worth watching? What we find though is that these clubs constantly hoover up players like Jack offering them riches and trophies when what would be better for all the other teams and competition in general is for them to have some of these players.

More evenly matched teams with a higher level of jeopardy about the outcome would surely improve viewing figures by neutrals to watch games too. The Big 6 would still probably have an advantage, but less so. It's the upsets that get people excited like our 7-2 against Liverpool ( had to get that in ) so there should be more of a chance of it happening more often in my opinion.

And the title probably wouldn't be over by April.

Utv.
« Last Edit: April 22, 2021, 08:22:13 PM by Hockley Lion »

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #1542 on: April 22, 2021, 08:46:13 PM »
If they are allowed to just carry on as normal then that is more of a travesty of justice as them trying to fuck off in the first place.
I am actually not happy it has collapsed - as i would have enjoyed the slow death as games kicked off and no one was watching. To see United, Liverpool and the wannabees Spurs self destruct would have been worth it all

Who's to say they still won't self destruct, Spuds are in debt to the tune of £900 million, United are in big debt and FSG want to sell Liverpool, sponsors are already pulling out, this is going to run a while longer & isn't going to just go away.

We should offer to help Daniel in their hour of need, like he did for us. £5m plus El Ghazi for Kane.

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #1543 on: April 22, 2021, 08:55:31 PM »
Florentino Perez is doing his best to imitate Baghdad Bob, the mercurial Iraqi Information Minister.

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #1544 on: April 22, 2021, 09:01:26 PM »
It’s not the guaranteed Champions League place that’s important to Barça and Real Madrid as they are pretty much guarantee that every year now
I can’t ever remember them not being in it

It’s revenue streams for them
Earning more money out on line and tv rights

 


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