Champions League restructuring

[Toronto Villa]

I can see protests at grounds if this gets any more serious.

These people are too removed from the outside world to realise that the anger that's going to rain down on them, will be loud and unpleasant.

If the Premier League told these clubs to fuck off at the end of the season then seriously, who would miss them? I'm beginning to warm to the idea of them not being around at all.

Liverpool fans already have protest banners up.

[ChicagoLion]

The PL defector Clubs are absolutely sure they will not be thrown out of the League as remaining 14 would be too scared to lose their pulling power. Time now for FA, PL Board and the 14 to stand up.

This is the crux of the matter.
The Financial implications for the EPL is enormous. They have a choice, take the hit now, or be cannibalised  by the 6 parasitical clubs.

[cdbearsfan]

I have written a hard-hitting, no-holds-barred piece here: https://www.heroesandvillains.info/forumv3/index.php?topic=62055.0, which might be shit.

I agree with Sexual Ealing.

Erm, not about it being shit. I mean I agree with the article.

[mallo]

Let them go and court worldwide fans - quite a few from here would probably pay up - it's the fans that go to matches that are being erased here. If they are kicked out it's a great opportunity to make the PL more competitive (for a few years, until the next 'big six' are created).

[ian c.]

Big city
Big stadium
Owners of dubious morality who would agree to be part of it

I shocked that a reputable bank like JP Morgan would be involved with anything that might be considered morally dubious.

Why would a bank, who have only one business objective care about anything other than their one business objective?

Morality, decency, the milk of human kindness?

But you are right, why should morality be a hinderance in acheiving their one business objective when they have repeatedly shown over the last 20 years that they haven't cared about legality in pursute of that objective?

[sid1964]

The owners of these football clubs did not make their fortunes by being nice and always playing by the rules

[JUAN PABLO]

Let them take VAR with them too.   

[TonyD]

Either way if this goes ahead with them staying or not staying in their respective domestic leagues - it will fail.  It will be shite and most wont watch it.

If they are allowed to stay in their Domestic Leagues it will succeed Financially.

It won’t succeed financially as they won’t generate enough money.   The shine is going off the CL and this will be even more boring, sterile and artificial.  It will be boycotted by fans that would have paid for CL games.  It will like a league of endless friendlies played by wankers we will all hate. 

[tomd2103]

There's no way those clubs will allow themselves to have the European Super League and nothing else.  It'd be suicide and they know it.  The thing that concerns me is what they're doing with their left hand whilst we're all looking at their right hand.  I await the announcement of the new CL format with dread.

Honestly think that is their real intention of all of to his.  This ESL stuff is just a smokescreen to try and push through the changes to the Champions League format they want.

[Mister E]

Either way if this goes ahead with them staying or not staying in their respective domestic leagues - it will fail.  It will be shite and most wont watch it.   

The 6 will stay in the EPL - the EPL can't afford to let them go, sadly.
And it - the ESL - will probably fizzle and die out.
And everyone in the governance of the game will pretend it never happened.

[ChicagoLion]

Either way if this goes ahead with them staying or not staying in their respective domestic leagues - it will fail.  It will be shite and most wont watch it.

If they are allowed to stay in their Domestic Leagues it will succeed Financially.

It won’t succeed financially as they won’t generate enough money.   The shine is going off the CL and this will be even more boring, sterile and artificial.  It will be boycotted by fans that would have paid for CL games.  It will like a league of endless friendlies played by wankers we will all hate.

Of course it would, they would be able to dictate the terms under which they participate in the EPL and dominate future football contracts across the globe. They need the platform of the Domestic Leagues initially but not long term.

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Super League players banned from international football.

[OCD]

Super League players banned from international football.

Greedy clubs will attract only greedy players. Players that want to play for their countries will look to join other clubs and some of those clubs' players will seek to move away if this is seen through to it's end.

[sickbeggar]

There's no way those clubs will allow themselves to have the European Super League and nothing else.  It'd be suicide and they know it.  The thing that concerns me is what they're doing with their left hand whilst we're all looking at their right hand.  I await the announcement of the new CL format with dread.

Honestly think that is their real intention of all of to his.  This ESL stuff is just a smokescreen to try and push through the changes to the Champions League format they want.

That was my thought initially. Thing is do you really go this far along the route and involve JP Morgan for what's basically a bluff?

[sickbeggar]

Super League players banned from international football.

Can they actually do that legally? This is nothing to do with them realistically, and they couldn't get out of their club contracts even if they wanted to. I'm sure it would fail if they took it to court.