Champions League restructuring

[frank black]

Just annoys me that there are enough people on this planet that will pay good money to watch a “closed shop” super league.

I’d find it as boring as hell with no real jeopardy or genuine “best in Europe claims to whoever wins it.

[Drummond]

Respect to Liverpool supporters for demanding all their flags are removed from The Kop for their next game.

I just don't see any true supporters wanting this.

Yeah, I do think it has to be remembered in all this that the supporters of those six clubs might be just as opposed to the plans as everyone else. 

I have found myself wondering this morning how I would feel if we were one of the six clubs involved. 

I'd honestly rather go and get a Blues season ticket.

Yep, I'd be done. I've not heard anyone in support of it yet.

[TonyD]

Either way if this goes ahead with them staying or not staying in their respective domestic leagues - it will fail.  It will be shite and most wont watch it.   

[Monty]

Respect to Liverpool supporters for demanding all their flags are removed from The Kop for their next game.

I just don't see any true supporters wanting this.

Yeah, I do think it has to be remembered in all this that the supporters of those six clubs might be just as opposed to the plans as everyone else. 

I have found myself wondering this morning how I would feel if we were one of the six clubs involved.

when this was muted last year, I didn't come across 1 big six fan who was for it. Realistically no-one gives a fuck about the likes of AC Milan, Inter and Juventus because you wouldn't........ Its entirely the sort of thing that excites overseas viewers.

And they don't really care about the English clubs either, other than as romantic European memories.

[olaftab]

JP Morgan would only have put up the money if they'd spoken to the broadcasters who'd bid on it, so there's the wedge.

JP Morgan have done no such thing. They are financing the deal by providing the money mentioned as a loan. They will effectively own/part own all the clubs in the deal.

[ChicagoLion]

Either way if this goes ahead with them staying or not staying in their respective domestic leagues - it will fail.  It will be shite and most wont watch it.

If they are allowed to stay in their Domestic Leagues it will succeed Financially.

[Pete3206]

Unnamed board member quoted on Sky

"Our primary job is to maximise our revenues and profits, the wider good of the game is a secondary concern."

[olaftab]

The PL defector Clubs are absolutely sure they will not be thrown out of the League as remaining 14 would be too scared to lose their pulling power. Time now for FA, PL Board and the 14 to stand up.

[mr underhill]

This is Real Madrid's way of trying to screw tyhe EPL which they have always been resentful of, particularly as they haven't got a pot to piss in. This is the prime example of Mr Zimmerman's money doesn't talk it swears line. Greedy, grasping rapacious coonts.

[Hookeysmith]

The irony of the sign at old Trafford with the quote attributed to Sir Matt Busby

"Football is nothing without the fans"

I have said that TV companies do not need fans - they can have any KO time they like , which all helps the gambling trade around the world, they can dub crowd noise on if needed as Covid has proved.

When they rushed to get the game back was it for the morale of the people or so they can squeeze every penny out of a captive audience.

Very proud that our club as always have a moral compass.

To be honest i cannot see it being pushed on and i must admit i have a huge respect for Gary Neville we know he is a genuine fan and it hurts him probably more than all the other plastics

[sickbeggar]

Respect to Liverpool supporters for demanding all their flags are removed from The Kop for their next game.

I just don't see any true supporters wanting this.

Yeah, I do think it has to be remembered in all this that the supporters of those six clubs might be just as opposed to the plans as everyone else. 

I have found myself wondering this morning how I would feel if we were one of the six clubs involved.

when this was muted last year, I didn't come across 1 big six fan who was for it. Realistically no-one gives a fuck about the likes of AC Milan, Inter and Juventus because you wouldn't........ Its entirely the sort of thing that excites overseas viewers.

And they don't really care about the English clubs either, other than as romantic European memories.

yep its the competition that matters.. Since the CL appeared even rivalry among European clubs isn't really there. No-one has a fierce rivalry with Real Madrid say even if your Liverpool or Chelsea or Man United. I'd imagine it would be the same for Real Madrid fans or Inter fans

[Brend'Watkins]

What would be nice to see would be a few big named players like Mount, Kane, Rashford and the like threaten to hand in transfer requests. 

[Sexual Ealing]

I have written a hard-hitting, no-holds-barred piece here: https://www.heroesandvillains.info/forumv3/index.php?topic=62055.0, which might be shit.

[sickbeggar]

JP Morgan would only have put up the money if they'd spoken to the broadcasters who'd bid on it, so there's the wedge.

JP Morgan have done no such thing. They are financing the deal by providing the money mentioned as a loan. They will effectively own/part own all the clubs in the deal.

they'd still have to know they'd be getting their money back. The first question they'd ask is who's buying the tv rights to make a profit I would have thought. I think its highly unlikely the ESL just went "well probably SKY" and JP Morgan went "that's good enough for us!"

[Pete3206]

I can see protests at grounds if this gets any more serious.

These people are too removed from the outside world to realise that the anger that's going to rain down on them, will be loud and unpleasant.

If the Premier League told these clubs to fuck off at the end of the season then seriously, who would miss them? I'm beginning to warm to the idea of them not being around at all.