Man Citeh XIV 2 v Aston Villa 0 Post Match Thread.

[The Edge]

Walton was obviously spoken to by the refs association to make such an about turn. Offside is about seeking to gain an advantage and that's what the offside player did.

Hell yeah. Walton back tracked faster than an Italian tank driver. Someone definitely had a word in his shell like.
What's really boiling my piss is how they're fannying around with interpretations to try and justify their shocking decisions. I blamed Mings in the match thread but I was wrong. Of course Mings knew he was behind him and miles offside that's why he was relaxed about bringing the ball under control safe in the knowledge that a blatantly offside player can't tackle him as he would be given offside. You'd think. And the penalty wasn't much better. He headed the ball straight at Cash's hand so he had no chance of avoiding contact. They fought like lions and that made me feel proud as did the kids the other night. It would seem that a culture of fighting for the Villa is being developed from top to bottom. But tonight I feel gutted and hate what football has become. A corporate money driven cash cow designed to keep the usual suspects at the top table. I actually feel sick thinking about it.

[Percy McCarthy]

Mings does make one mistake a game but he's still a great player and wore his Villa kit on the train to Bournemouth.  Lest we forget.

I don’t give a fuck about him wearing his kit on the train but he still had a great game. One of the last we need to replace. It was close to a game of shots in against a top drawer team and the defence were all excellent.

[Richard E]

If anyone wants cheering up, Small Heath are losing.

[astonvilla82]

I am a big critic of Ming when he should just head or kick it out but on this occasion  definitely not,if this would have been the other way round it would have went to VAR

[dave.woodhall]

From now on, all you have to do is leave a forward ten yards behind the last defender and aim the ball at the defender's chest.

[Allan C]

Reckon it's time to replace Mings.  Regardless of the offside decision, it was yet another dithering on the ball fuck up when he should have just cleared it no messing, like Rio Ferdinand said.   England international my arse.

Harsh.
I thought he was excellent all match considering.
And when the ball came to him before the goal I thought take that down, and he did,  then from behind him hello Rhodri comes along and goodbye fairness

Exactly  the second Rhodri moved towards the ball he became active and therefore offside  it should have been flagged before Mings touched it. Additionally Mings was excellent all match along with the other defenders  totally unfair to scapegoat him yet again

[mr underhill]

the fact is we have a totally egregious record against United and City.

[AlexAlexCropley]

From now on, all you have to do is leave a forward ten yards behind the last defender and aim the ball at the defender's chest.

Is what I said earlier.Isn't this the precise reason the offside law was originally brought in?

[PaulWinch again]

From now on, all you have to do is leave a forward ten yards behind the last defender and aim the ball at the defender's chest.

Quite. Letter of the law - bollocks.

[CT]

the fact is we have a totally egregious record against United and City.

What a brilliant word, I’ve just had to look it up!

[Russ aka Big Nose]

The decision on the first goal (clearly) changes the game and for all those saying "by the letter of the law ..."

This is borrowed from Smithy on the VAR thread:
"This is the law they've used to allow the goal:

"A player in an offside position receiving the ball from an opponent, who deliberately plays the ball (except from a deliberate save), is not considered to have gained an advantage."

So, they're arguing that Rhodri "received" the ball from Mings, rather than "took it" from.  If Tyrone had headed the ball back to Emi and Rhodri had got it and scored, then I can see how this law would apply - but I don't see how you can argue Rhodri "received" the ball from Mings."


In order words - Rhodri tackles Mings so cannot be said to have 'received' the ball.

We may be getting closer to parity with the 'Big 6' in performance terms but we're still miles off in terms of the decisions they get.

[Nev]

Dean reckons McGinn was booked, I thought it was Luiz. Livegoals doesn't show either??

[DrGonzo]

They deserved the win, we deserved a better referee.  In this age of endless replays a mistake such as that is completely unacceptable.  To compound that mistake by sending off our boss for, correctly, calling the ref a total useless cnut is just rubbing chilli into the bellend.  He should be made to resit his referee's exam or alternatively be made to take charge of every game played at St Dogshits.  No blame to Tyrone.

[Russ aka Big Nose]

Dean reckons McGinn was booked, I thought it was Luiz. Livegoals doesn't show either??

BBC says McGinn.

[The Edge]

Var release image to clear up Man City's first goal tonight.