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Re: Aston Villa vs Brighton post-match thread
« Reply #75 on: November 21, 2020, 05:35:03 PM »
Lamptey is a bit like wolves’ Traore.

All fart and no shit.

Err no not for me

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Re: Aston Villa vs Brighton post-match thread
« Reply #76 on: November 21, 2020, 05:35:16 PM »
As others have said Mings was very poor today and he needs to improve quickly.

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Re: Aston Villa vs Brighton post-match thread
« Reply #77 on: November 21, 2020, 05:35:58 PM »
Thought it was one of Jack’s least effective games and sadly others didn’t step up to cover it. Although in fairness he created that chance for Ollie in the first half and whilst it was a fine last ditch tackle Ollie should have been more alert and done better.

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Re: Aston Villa vs Brighton post-match thread
« Reply #78 on: November 21, 2020, 05:36:27 PM »
We should not be hanging on for a penalty decision against Brighton, there was an awful lot wrong with that performance.
We had to score one of the many chances in the first half and we need to take a good look at replacing Mings.

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Re: Aston Villa vs Brighton post-match thread
« Reply #79 on: November 21, 2020, 05:38:58 PM »
We are going to finish between 9-14th,

As long as we make the same improvement next season it’s an acceptable stage, a stepping stone.

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Re: Aston Villa vs Brighton post-match thread
« Reply #80 on: November 21, 2020, 05:39:17 PM »
We should not be hanging on for a penalty decision against Brighton, there was an awful lot wrong with that performance.
We had to score one of the many chances in the first half and we need to take a good look at replacing Mings.

We need a big, strong, composed Scandinavian in the middle of defence.

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Re: Aston Villa vs Brighton post-match thread
« Reply #81 on: November 21, 2020, 05:39:23 PM »

I thought the pen looked iffy and could be argued either way.

Do you think we would have got away with it?  I've seen plenty of yellow and red cards given this season where the player's got a touch on the ball but followed through to foul the opponent.  The analysis always says getting  touch on the ball is irrelevant if you follow through and foul the player.
But did the contact impede Trez? Getting a touch and then mowing down the player is one thing, contact having played the ball is another thing entirely.

Do you honestly believe he played the ball, in that he saw Trez knock it away from him and deliberately let it lightly brush his heel? Aside from that, yes he did impede him, Trez made the most of it but there was clear contact to his shin.
yes there was clear contact with his shin, the question is about impeding an opponent with contact

It really isn't, you see hundreds of freekicks and penalties given every weekend across all the leagues where the player could've carried on, once there's illegal contact the ref can choose to play on or allow an advantage but it's a foul either way. If the attacker is unable to take the advantage for any reason then the foul is given.

This penalty had nothing to do with that though, it was purely based on March made contact with the ball so nothing after that matters to the ref, which isn't what the rules state and isn't consistent with how the rules are applied. As lots of other people have said, outside the box that's a free kick and probably a yellow card and no one bats an eyelid, reversing the decision was every bit as bad as the decision to not reverse the Bruno Fernandes one last season.

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Re: Aston Villa vs Brighton post-match thread
« Reply #82 on: November 21, 2020, 05:41:14 PM »
Lamptey is a bit like wolves’ Traore.

All fart and no shit.

I think Lamptey looks a cracking player. That’s also not true about Traore.
Agree

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Re: Aston Villa vs Brighton post-match thread
« Reply #83 on: November 21, 2020, 05:41:48 PM »
We are going to finish between 9-14th,

As long as we make the same improvement next season it’s an acceptable stage, a stepping stone.
I’ve said before. Fifth in the championship to 14th in the prem (my predicted finishing place) in 2 seasons would be remarkable progress.

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Re: Aston Villa vs Brighton post-match thread
« Reply #84 on: November 21, 2020, 05:42:50 PM »
Lamptey is a bit like wolves’ Traore.

All fart and no shit.

I think Lamptey looks a cracking player. That’s also not true about Traore.
Agree

When your hearts in your mouth every time he gets the ball
normally suggests he’s got something about him

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Re: Aston Villa vs Brighton post-match thread
« Reply #85 on: November 21, 2020, 05:42:55 PM »
Lamptey is a bit like wolves’ Traore.

All fart and no shit.

I think Lamptey looks a cracking player. That’s also not true about Traore.
Agree
He is superb.  Moves the ball up the pitch at pace.  I wish we could buy him...

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Re: Aston Villa vs Brighton post-match thread
« Reply #86 on: November 21, 2020, 05:43:49 PM »
I thought we played very well but the defence is a bit of a worry in particular Mings.  We had about 12 Corners and our 9tf high centre back went up for them and then returned to his defensive position without going anywhere near the ball.
He only wins unchallenged headers when defending.

But, we are far better than the likes of Brighton.  Made me smile when Keown said it was an end to end game as the  stats said Villa 12 Chances and Brighton 3 chances.  Also at that time we had has 9 corners to their nil.

If we had scored first today, and we really should have, I reckon we would have won by 3,4 or 5.

I'm really pissed off losing this but  I know we are on the way to be a real top side again.  Reminds me of going to Albion in a Friendly when we had just signed Savo, Draper and Southgate.  We lost but were so much better than them that I knew we were going back to the top of English Football




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Re: Aston Villa vs Brighton post-match thread
« Reply #87 on: November 21, 2020, 05:44:04 PM »
How this referee is regarded as a being the best referee in the Premier is beyond me .After his error against Sheffield  United this was his chance to put things right .We all know if that was Liverpool or United awarded that pen no way is it over turned VAR is turning me off the game ,it has reached the point where when you either score or are awarded a penalty you just sit there expecting the worst and cannot get excited

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Re: Aston Villa vs Brighton post-match thread
« Reply #88 on: November 21, 2020, 05:44:16 PM »
Lamptey is a bit like wolves’ Traore.

All fart and no shit.

I think Lamptey looks a cracking player. That’s also not true about Traore.
Agree
He is superb.  Moves the ball up the pitch at pace.  I wish we could buy him...
We already have someone who runs really well, but has no end product.

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Re: Aston Villa vs Brighton post-match thread
« Reply #89 on: November 21, 2020, 05:44:56 PM »
We should not be hanging on for a penalty decision against Brighton, there was an awful lot wrong with that performance.
We had to score one of the many chances in the first half and we need to take a good look at replacing Mings.

True but lets not forget the chances Brighton had in the first half. Fine lines etc but we were crap and only have ourselves to blame. Losing Barkley is bad enough, replacing him with Traore is another, especially when we had Conor on the bench who was the more natural replacement. Maybe Smith doesn't know but Conor is bloody useful supporting the attack and as Brighton packed their box it was probably going to take a shot from outside the box to beat them. But no, Dean decides to play to their defensive strengths.

 


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