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Re: Aston Villa vs Brighton post-match thread
« Reply #30 on: November 21, 2020, 05:14:55 PM »
Trez could have stayed on his feet and tried to play the ball, he was looking for the penalty, he dived, the touch on his leg did not impede Trez from playing the ball.
Yes we have seen them given for a lot less but I do not think it was a penalty.

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Re: Aston Villa vs Brighton post-match thread
« Reply #31 on: November 21, 2020, 05:15:15 PM »
When’s our next Sunday night match ?

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Re: Aston Villa vs Brighton post-match thread
« Reply #32 on: November 21, 2020, 05:15:29 PM »
Pen every day of the week.Wonder if Oliver felt sending off Lamtey was too harsh so he evened it up for them.

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Re: Aston Villa vs Brighton post-match thread
« Reply #33 on: November 21, 2020, 05:15:36 PM »
This result was probably on the cards as soon as we started talking about an easier run of fixtures... 

The home form is worrying and it needs to be fixed asap.  If we have any aspirations to be challenging for European places, Villa Park needs to be a place where most away sides expect a defeat and feel relieved if they come away with a narrow defeat/point.

Was never really that under MON though although it was more draws than defeats in those days.

7-8 away wins will still mean a pretty good season.

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Re: Aston Villa vs Brighton post-match thread
« Reply #34 on: November 21, 2020, 05:15:41 PM »
I can see why the penalty wasn’t given, the point is though that we were failing in too many aspects of our game to make that a certain win.
You can not give the opposition 2 goals and expect to win too many games.
I can see why the penalty wasn’t given, the point is though that we were failing in too many aspects of our game to make that a certain win.
You can not give the opposition 2 goals and expect to win too many games.

Then your’re in a minority of one then. Stone wall penalty for anyone else.

Not a minority of one. I also can see why it wasn’t given. Fucking annoying though.

Two then  :D

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Re: Aston Villa vs Brighton post-match thread
« Reply #35 on: November 21, 2020, 05:15:53 PM »
Trez could have stayed on his feet and tried to play the ball, he was looking for the penalty, he dived, the touch on his leg did not impede Trez from playing the ball.
Yes we have seen them given for a lot less but I do not think it was a penalty.
I think that is pretty spot.   

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Re: Aston Villa vs Brighton post-match thread
« Reply #36 on: November 21, 2020, 05:16:12 PM »

I thought the pen looked iffy and could be argued either way.

Do you think we would have got away with it?  I've seen plenty of yellow and red cards given this season where the player's got a touch on the ball but followed through to foul the opponent.  The analysis always says getting  touch on the ball is irrelevant if you follow through and foul the player.   

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Re: Aston Villa vs Brighton post-match thread
« Reply #37 on: November 21, 2020, 05:16:55 PM »
This result was probably on the cards as soon as we started talking about an easier run of fixtures... 

The home form is worrying and it needs to be fixed asap.  If we have any aspirations to be challenging for European places, Villa Park needs to be a place where most away sides expect a defeat and feel relieved if they come away with a narrow defeat/point.
I agree, anyone caught using the term ‘winnable games’ deserves a damn good thrashing.

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Re: Aston Villa vs Brighton post-match thread
« Reply #38 on: November 21, 2020, 05:17:34 PM »
I can see why the penalty wasn’t given, the point is though that we were failing in too many aspects of our game to make that a certain win.
You can not give the opposition 2 goals and expect to win too many games.
I can see why the penalty wasn’t given, the point is though that we were failing in too many aspects of our game to make that a certain win.
You can not give the opposition 2 goals and expect to win too many games.

Then your’re in a minority of one then. Stone wall penalty for anyone else.

Not a minority of one. I also can see why it wasn’t given. Fucking annoying though.

It wasn't given because a myth has been allowed to spread for decades that if you get any contact with the ball as the defender then you've 'won' it and anything that happens afterwards is irrelevant. It's bullshit. If you look on BBC, etc there are loads of comments saying exactly that. It's wrong and needs to be changed, throwing yourself at the attacker and hoping he kicks the ball against you is in no way winning the ball.

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Re: Aston Villa vs Brighton post-match thread
« Reply #39 on: November 21, 2020, 05:18:23 PM »
Referee looked at one angle and saw the defender touch the ball. Anything after that like the kick to the shin was judged irrelevant.

That was my take. Soon as I saw it again, I knew it was going to be overruled.

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Re: Aston Villa vs Brighton post-match thread
« Reply #40 on: November 21, 2020, 05:18:25 PM »
That was never a clear and obvious error to be overturned, VAR Is killing the entertainment. A few players were below par today especially the midfield.

Brighton looked dangerous on the counter and their keeper didn't have that much to do especially the second half.

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Re: Aston Villa vs Brighton post-match thread
« Reply #41 on: November 21, 2020, 05:18:32 PM »
Reasonable going forward although not enough movement again. The defence is a car crash waiting to happen. Was Oliver the ref who didn't give the ghost goal?
Yep. He was also the ref who didn't send Pickford off for the assault on Van Dijk.

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Re: Aston Villa vs Brighton post-match thread
« Reply #42 on: November 21, 2020, 05:18:48 PM »

I thought the pen looked iffy and could be argued either way.

Do you think we would have got away with it?  I've seen plenty of yellow and red cards given this season where the player's got a touch on the ball but followed through to foul the opponent.  The analysis always says getting  touch on the ball is irrelevant if you follow through and foul the player.
But did the contact impede Trez? Getting a touch and then mowing down the player is one thing, contact having played the ball is another thing entirely.

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Re: Aston Villa vs Brighton post-match thread
« Reply #43 on: November 21, 2020, 05:19:18 PM »
Possible we won't win the league now, and we couldn't have picked a fresher team to play against after the international break. Beat West Ham and it won't be the end of the world.

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Re: Aston Villa vs Brighton post-match thread
« Reply #44 on: November 21, 2020, 05:19:23 PM »
Every other team in the league would have been given that penalty
However, a draw was the best we could have asked for, Mings was dreadful, caught out of position, gave the ball away Defensively we were crap and fluffed our first half chances.
for all our corner count we never really put their keeper under pressure.
Losing three at home is a pisser, but we are Aston Villa we do what we do.
Other games to come must do better
PS Trarore was poor

 


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