Aston Villa v Southampton Post Match Thread

[Drummond]

Free kicks would still go over a man on the line. Or he'd want to handle it.

The trick is not to concede a free kick in those areas.

[oldtimernow]

Glad they made a fist of it second half, hopefully gives us something positive to take away from it.  I so nearly didn't put the second half on, and so nearly turned off at 4.   Im glad I didn't now as although we lost it feels like there is something there to build on for next week.  I think we'll beat Arsenal now.  Im not sure why but I do.

I fell asleep at half time woke up with about 5 minutes to go, heard that Ings had added a fourth, went  for a crap and came back to discover later it was 3-4 and their goalkeeper had kept us at bay with a good second half performance.
Madness

[eamonn]

Maybe if you stopped sleeping and pooing we might win again.

[jwarry]

Yes, we got back into the game late on, but overall I was very disappointed in our game plan and performance.

I’ve just been reading a Saints fans forum and they are saying exactly the same thing believe it or not!  They are unanimous in thinking that a win felt like a loss after such a poor second half performance - and they were fearing it would happen even when they were 3-0 up, so were very relieved when Ings scored his wonder goal.  Perhaps Dean is right and we are beating ourselves up unnecessarily

[oldtimernow]

Maybe if you stopped sleeping and pooing we might win again.

[Risso]

Yes, we got back into the game late on, but overall I was very disappointed in our game plan and performance.

I’ve just been reading a Saints fans forum and they are saying exactly the same thing believe it or not!  They are unanimous in thinking that a win felt like a loss after such a poor second half performance - and they were fearing it would happen even when they were 3-0 up, so were very relieved when Ings scored his wonder goal.  Perhaps Dean is right and we are beating ourselves up unnecessarily

Nah.  A loss felt very much like a loss.

[Brend'Watkins]

Someone if not all in the coaching staff need beating up for the first goal.

[N'ZMAV]

it was a shambles - we only got back into it because Southampton really took their foot off the pedal.

[PeterWithesShin]

We got back into it because we stopped making stupid mistakes, as soon as we did that Southampton created the square root of naff all.

[Mister E]

We got back into it because we stopped making stupid mistakes, as soon as we did that Southampton created the square root of naff all.

Yup, it's all about the coaching of the players and their individual discipline.

[ChicagoLion]

We got back into it because we stopped making stupid mistakes, as soon as we did that Southampton created the square root of naff all.

Yes, after they put 4 past us

[PeterWithesShin]

All scored from fuck ups rather than scintillating Southampton play. Fuck ups stopped, Southampton created fuck all.

[Lastfootstamper]

All scored from fuck ups rather than scintillating Southampton play. Fuck ups stopped, Southampton created fuck all.

Was it their first or the disallowed one that got set in motion by Traore's only telling contribution wherein he won the ball, then tripped over his own feet and gave it them back?

[fredm]

I don’t think we disagree CL.

But someone on the pitch has to be controlling it. Even at amateur level the keeper or big lump of a centre half is pointing out the problem. There was a huge hole on the six yard box which the kid hit with the free kick McGinn standing there and Mings on their lump stops that goal.

I was hoping Martinez would be the leader of the defence, he isn’t showing it.

As for amateurish.., Luiz’s tackle? With Konsa and Mings in close attendance? Walcott was looking for the touch.

I wonder if Luiz needs some help in the middle of the park especially against the teams who are pressing in your face.  I am thinking that maybe the international break does not do him any favours, travelling back to South America playing two full periods of 90 minutes then travelling back with the jet lag etc. maybe the legs start to go a bot or maybe he needs a bit of a rest.

[brontebilly]

I don’t think we disagree CL.

But someone on the pitch has to be controlling it. Even at amateur level the keeper or big lump of a centre half is pointing out the problem. There was a huge hole on the six yard box which the kid hit with the free kick McGinn standing there and Mings on their lump stops that goal.

I was hoping Martinez would be the leader of the defence, he isn’t showing it.

As for amateurish.., Luiz’s tackle? With Konsa and Mings in close attendance? Walcott was looking for the touch.

I wonder if Luiz needs some help in the middle of the park especially against the teams who are pressing in your face.  I am thinking that maybe the international break does not do him any favours, travelling back to South America playing two full periods of 90 minutes then travelling back with the jet lag etc. maybe the legs start to go a bot or maybe he needs a bit of a rest.

Peak Makeleke would struggle to cover the lack of balance and position discipline in the four ahead of Luiz. With the exception of the Leicester game, Luiz has struggled all season even against Fulham he was poor. Without doubt, he needs someone next to him to play in a two. I think his best game last season was at Everton where the much maligned Hourihane also did well next to him.

At a minimum McGinn needs to drop back one next to Luiz like he did against Liverpool but I'm not sure that's McGinn's best position either. For me Hourihane or even Nakamba come back in asap and we start trying to become hard to play through as a priority.