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Author Topic: Aston Villa v Southampton Post Match Thread  (Read 18281 times)

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Re: Aston Villa v Southampton Post Match Thread
« Reply #195 on: November 03, 2020, 04:41:58 PM »
Take away the results against Liverpool & Leeds, and we look like a decent mid table side. There's lessons that need to be learnt, but there's also nothing that's particularly concerning for where we are right now (2nd season in the top flight after a long absence)

Seven goals conceded in the last two games and what likes like a return to the defensive shambles of last season is mildly concerning.
It was dejavu all over again including Smith post match ramblings.

I'm interested to know what sort of thing you'd expect him to say and what you thought he said that was rambling?

Managers generally don't give too much away in post-match interviews. They won't want to say too much about what went wrong, they want to fix it.
He said he didnt think we had a defensive problem first half.
3 minutes Ings Through on goal
then Target goes to ground unnessarily- Free Kick- Dwarf Giant Match up they score
They pass through our midfield- Luiz gets wrong side- Free kick they score
Cash then gets himself wrong side deliberate hand ball Free kick they score

They walked through our midfield with ease in the first half.

No defensive problems after 7 in 2 games?







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Re: Aston Villa v Southampton Post Match Thread
« Reply #196 on: November 03, 2020, 05:46:25 PM »
We beat Leicester, they thumped Leeds.

As for solving or fixing our defence and midfield, maybe it's not broken.
Smith suggested similar.

The balance in the centre midfield, Mings out of sorts, Cash getting exposed.

Conceding 7 in 2 games, something is not right.

Liverpool conceded seven in one game. Their defence must be shite.

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Re: Aston Villa v Southampton Post Match Thread
« Reply #197 on: November 03, 2020, 06:02:59 PM »
Southampton lost their first 2 games conceding 6, they must be shit as well.

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Re: Aston Villa v Southampton Post Match Thread
« Reply #198 on: November 03, 2020, 06:03:06 PM »
Look at the quality of the goals we have conceded







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« Last Edit: November 03, 2020, 06:04:56 PM by TelfordVilla »

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Re: Aston Villa v Southampton Post Match Thread
« Reply #199 on: November 03, 2020, 06:44:42 PM »
Look at the quality of the goals we have conceded







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This is the thing. On the face of it conceding 7 goals in two games at home is alarming but 5 of those goals were world class so we need to bear that in mind before we throw the baby out with the bathwater.
« Last Edit: November 03, 2020, 06:48:24 PM by The Edge »

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Re: Aston Villa v Southampton Post Match Thread
« Reply #200 on: November 03, 2020, 08:11:15 PM »
Look at the quality of the goals we have conceded







This is the thing. On the face of it conceding 7 goals in two games at home is alarming but 5 of those goals were world class so we need to bear that in mind before we throw the baby out with the bathwater.
[/quote]absolutely spot on

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Re: Aston Villa v Southampton Post Match Thread
« Reply #201 on: November 03, 2020, 08:47:33 PM »
Look at the quality of the goals we have conceded







This is the thing. On the face of it conceding 7 goals in two games at home is alarming but 5 of those goals were world class so we need to bear that in mind before we throw the baby out with the bathwater.
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« Last Edit: November 04, 2020, 09:44:10 AM by West Derby Villan »

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Re: Aston Villa v Southampton Post Match Thread
« Reply #202 on: November 03, 2020, 08:50:08 PM »
They were superb goals from Leeds and Southamptons perspectives. From our perspectives they were very avoidable and only natural that we focus on how to stop making those errors.

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Re: Aston Villa v Southampton Post Match Thread
« Reply #203 on: November 03, 2020, 10:47:15 PM »
They were superb goals from Leeds and Southamptons perspectives. From our perspectives they were very avoidable and only natural that we focus on how to stop making those errors.
Every goal conceded will always be analysed. We definitely made costly errors in both the Leeds and Southampton games but the manner in which we were punished for them was brutal.  As always it's about how you react. I doubt that we have conceded 5 goals in  consecutive games at Villa Park of such a high standard too many times. 

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Re: Aston Villa v Southampton Post Match Thread
« Reply #204 on: November 03, 2020, 11:50:59 PM »
The only game that I've been impressed with us defensively was Leicester. Granted they didn't have Vardy or Madisson but we really didn't give them a sniff and as the game went on our midfield turned the screw on them.

Sheff Utd - the penalty we conceded against ten men was a shambles, break from our corner, with three or four players at fault. Hardly tested afterwards.
Fulham - game won early but both full backs were very poor early on. Luiz struggled badly in the holding role in the second half. Fortunate to keep a clean sheet
Liverpool - crazy game where we could easily have scored more than 10...but Liverpool also missed a host of chances. Cash destroyed by Jota and Luiz once again struggling.
Leicester - solid
Leeds - Mings at fault for all goals, Cash destroyed again with no cover. Luiz completely overran with no support
Southampton - pretty much a repeat of Leeds. Cash destroyed, Mings hopeless for two, set piece disorganisation, Luiz overran again

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Re: Aston Villa v Southampton Post Match Thread
« Reply #205 on: November 04, 2020, 08:39:47 AM »
The only game that I've been impressed with us defensively was Leicester. Granted they didn't have Vardy or Madisson but we really didn't give them a sniff and as the game went on our midfield turned the screw on them.

Sheff Utd - the penalty we conceded against ten men was a shambles, break from our corner, with three or four players at fault. Hardly tested afterwards.
Fulham - game won early but both full backs were very poor early on. Luiz struggled badly in the holding role in the second half. Fortunate to keep a clean sheet
Liverpool - crazy game where we could easily have scored more than 10...but Liverpool also missed a host of chances. Cash destroyed by Jota and Luiz once again struggling.
Leicester - solid
Leeds - Mings at fault for all goals, Cash destroyed again with no cover. Luiz completely overran with no support
Southampton - pretty much a repeat of Leeds. Cash destroyed, Mings hopeless for two, set piece disorganisation, Luiz overran again

I understand being critical and that serves a purpose and everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I do think this is a bit over critical. ‘Cash’ destroyed’ by Jota?? So beating his man a couple of times in the game equates to destroying a player? Cash is a player who has stepped up a league and for me has looked largely comfortable apart from the last two games, he’ll be a very good player for us. Apart from the pen against sheff Utd, which was one mistake, the defence was completely comfortable. In this league every team has enough quality to create at least one or two good chances every game, if we’re going to critical of our defence because of this, it’s going to be a long season of criticism.
A lot of the conversation on here feels like it’s come after the start we had last year. Granted if we lose the next 3 then alarm bells are ringing, but we’re no where near this yet.

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Re: Aston Villa v Southampton Post Match Thread
« Reply #206 on: November 04, 2020, 08:45:32 AM »
The only game that I've been impressed with us defensively was Leicester. Granted they didn't have Vardy or Madisson but we really didn't give them a sniff and as the game went on our midfield turned the screw on them.

Sheff Utd - the penalty we conceded against ten men was a shambles, break from our corner, with three or four players at fault. Hardly tested afterwards.
Fulham - game won early but both full backs were very poor early on. Luiz struggled badly in the holding role in the second half. Fortunate to keep a clean sheet
Liverpool - crazy game where we could easily have scored more than 10...but Liverpool also missed a host of chances. Cash destroyed by Jota and Luiz once again struggling.
Leicester - solid
Leeds - Mings at fault for all goals, Cash destroyed again with no cover. Luiz completely overran with no support
Southampton - pretty much a repeat of Leeds. Cash destroyed, Mings hopeless for two, set piece disorganisation, Luiz overran again
Ok in the last two home games we've been hit with FIVE absolute top drawer finishes. But let's analyse a few more things just prior to the Leeds game.
Since "project restart" our defence has been as good as any in the Premier League. We have a goal difference during that period of +6. Right up there with the top teams. In 14 matches we have kept 6 clean sheets. In fact during those 14 matches we conceded just FOUR times in total. Only Man Utd scored more than 2 against us. We've brought in a top international keeper to bolster the defence. Mistakes have happened in the last two games and our opponents have been ruthless in punishing them. That won't always be so. And that doesn't mean our defence has suddenly become rubbish.
« Last Edit: November 04, 2020, 08:50:16 AM by The Edge »

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Re: Aston Villa v Southampton Post Match Thread
« Reply #207 on: November 04, 2020, 09:44:35 AM »
Look at the quality of the goals we have conceded







This is the thing. On the face of it conceding 7 goals in two games at home is alarming but 5 of those goals were world class so we need to bear that in mind before we throw the baby out with the bathwater.
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When we lose, people overreact in the heat of the moment, normally after 48 hours people have calmed down enough and have a more considered view.........

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Re: Aston Villa v Southampton Post Match Thread
« Reply #208 on: November 04, 2020, 09:45:15 AM »
We're conceding a lot more goals at home. A full Holte wouldn't stand for it! Well...maybe they would get-up, stand and leave to beat the traffic.

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Re: Aston Villa v Southampton Post Match Thread
« Reply #209 on: November 04, 2020, 09:51:22 AM »
We're conceding a lot more goals at home. A full Holte wouldn't stand for it! Well...maybe they would get-up, stand and leave to beat the traffic.
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