Villa v Leeds post match thread

[PeterWithesShin]

Klopp and some of the best players around were the same a few weeks ago. All seemed absolutely clueless to stop what was happening and made no tactical changes. It happens. Hopefully not very often to us.

[stubbsyandy]

Dean can learn a lot from Bielsa tonight and I hope he does.

[frank black]

Should have bought Traore on, he’d have changed the game I reckon

[ktvillan]

I think people are being unfair on McGinn - he played really well first half but wasn't alone in losing it second half.  The whole midfield went missing for about 20 minutes. 

For all Trezeguet's "putting in shifts" it's noticeable how a lot of the commentators and pundits were saying Cash was left stranded two against one far too often- showed several examples where Trez failed to track Alioski who kept overlapping Harrison down our right flank.  But ditto with Grealish down our left flank.

I thought Grealish, by his standards,  was poor tonight - great individual run but should either have shot sooner or played Watkins in - wide open at the far post.  Otherwise ran up a load of blind alleys and wasn't incisive enough.

And our defenders allowing Bamtwat time and space to go onto his left foot for goals two and three was garbage.

[Legion]

Should have bought Traore on, he’d have changed the game I reckon

He was brought on.

[Damo70]

Some key decisions went against us but ultimately we were second best on the night.

[ChicagoLion]

They were great, fair play a deserved easy win

Bielsa is a fantastic coach, negated Jack really well. Sometimes you just accept the defeat and the fact you’ve been done fair and square and move on.

This is how I feel. Nothing wrong with getting bested by Marcelo Bielsa.

it was the nature of the defeat and our reaction to being over run and conceding the first goal that I have a problem with.
Some really poor performances out there as well.

[AlexAlexCropley]

Should have bought Traore on, he’d have changed the game I reckon

He was brought on.

Think he knows that

[Brazilian Villain]

A chastening experience, I'd settle for top 4 now.

[steamer]

Should have bought Traore on, he’d have changed the game I reckon

He was brought on.

I think he was being sarcastic

[RamboandBruno]

First half ended up being fairly even after a very strong start from them. Second half, they came out firing, there was a 5 minute superstar advert interlude where Grealish literally nearly scored the goal of any season, before they resumed their dominance.
I actually thought McGinn had a decent 1sr half, but our problems in the second half completely stemmed from the centre of midfield, where McGinn, barklay and luiz were largely anonymous. The full backs were too narrow allowing Harrison and costa too much room, and that’s where the goals came from. Dean needed to pick up on that, and push them further forward, dropping luiz and McGinn deeper.
Grealish nearly scored goal of the century but otherwise was really well managed by Leeds and again held on to the ball too long. Any criticism of Watkins’s is harsh, I thought he ran the line well.

Finally, it’s one game, we got battered, we have 12 out of 15. It’s a bit shit, but generally at this moment in time, it’s ok everything is cool and the gang

[robbo1874]

The first half was amazing to watch but I thought Leeds would run out of steam. Sadly it was us that did. I do hate Leeds, but they were brilliant. You can’t take that away from them.

[rougegorge]

Should have bought Traore on, he’d have changed the game I reckon

He was brought on.

I think he was being sarcastic

This may be unfair so early in the season, but he's the one signing I am doubtful about. However, he hasn't showed much in the limited time so far to dissuade me

[Steve67]

As soon as BT put the 'as it stands table' up on the telly box, we capitulated. Nose bleeds all over the pitch.  Fair result, shame it was the cheating fucker who got them their goals but that's life.  You learn more from your defeats than you do from your wins. 

[Goldie.7]

When Bielsa hooked his player off after 20 minutes, I thought it's probably not going to be our night. To be honest, I really respect that sort of ruthlessness from a manager. Smith should have done the same to Barkley after his horror pass at 0-1, which directly resulted in their second.

We gifted them the ball so many times tonight that only losing 0-3 is somewhat of a let off from the hammering that could've easily happened. We were very poor, but in all honestly we were due a loss anyway.