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Offline OCD

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Re: Premier League reform proposals
« Reply #240 on: October 13, 2020, 03:24:28 PM »
I don't think putting something on the table that leads to the response of 'fuck off' can be seen as opening discussions.

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Re: Premier League reform proposals
« Reply #241 on: October 13, 2020, 03:26:02 PM »
As others have alluded to, this is a red herring. A dead cat thrown on the table, a tactic often used in political strategy. I have no doubt it has been deliberately leaked despite the public protestions of Parry the willing stooge. Look how available he was to conduct media interviews with all and sundry immediately. Uncanny. They know there is not a chance in hell this would get voted through in its leaked form. What it has achieved is to open the discussion, shift the narrative and give a starting point for negotations with the aim of settling on a proposal a step or two back from the current, somewhat nuclear opening gambit. This is just a continuation of English club football being tenderised and manipulated further by financial aims. This is now big business after all, the prime concern being profit.

In terms of a work around, a Netflix style subscription service would give an opportunity for the equitable sharing of revenues to all, fuck sky/BT/Amazon etc - go straight to market. Would be worth billions and piss all over any current TV deal in terms of club revenues.

Yeah you may be right whereby the overseas rights are sold on a club by club basis which is why Liverpool and ManU are proposing it and not say Southampton and Burnley

Offline Damo70

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Re: Premier League reform proposals
« Reply #242 on: October 13, 2020, 03:36:36 PM »
They would be mad to scrap relegation but I reckon they will push for two up two down between the Premier League and the Championship. But how many final day title dramas like Liverpool Arsenal in 1989 or Manure Citeh in 2012 occur? Whereas 'Survival Sunday' on the last day of the Premier League has become unmissable pretty much every year.

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Re: Premier League reform proposals
« Reply #243 on: October 13, 2020, 03:39:44 PM »
Ourselves, Leicester and Arsenal are the 'undecided's' according to the Daily Mail (not providing a link).

What's to decide really.  It's utter cack.

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Re: Premier League reform proposals
« Reply #244 on: October 13, 2020, 03:40:30 PM »
Rick Parry over the weekend:

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"It’s a model that is broken and frankly it was broken pre-COVID".

"There’s an unbridgeable gulf between the Championship and the Premier League, and there are inequalities that parachute payments create and the crazy behaviours that arise in the Championship as a result, with 107 per cent of turnover being spent on wages and £400m of owner funding required every year."

"The struggles faced by League One and League Two clubs where again there is a lot of owner funding required, they have now taken steps to behave responsibly by introducing salary caps which is a step in the right direction – so there’s a whole series of short-term and long-term issues that need to be resolved."

This from the man who was the Chief Executive who oversaw the formation of the Premier League. He's now telling us it's all gone to hell in a handcart, but we should just trust him again and it will all be great.

He and whoever's footprints are on this document should be run out of football and never be allowed back.


The sheer shameless neck of Parry is staggering.  The system is broken precisely because he and his ilk drove the PL into existence based on the greed of the bigger clubs, which was always going to lead to hardship lower down the ladder.  So he's broken football, and now his "fix" is to concentrate the power and greed into an even smaller select group of clubs on the pretext of bailing out his first fuck up.  It's almost as if him getting himself selected as head of the EFL was planned all along.....

It also shows that American businessman are questionable as "fit and proper" owners of British clubs if their MO is to aim for the relegation free comfort they enjoy in the American sports scene. It goes against 140 plus years of the tradition and history of the game and nothing is guaranteed to destroy smaller clubs and cause untold damage to their communities than that approach.

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Re: Premier League reform proposals
« Reply #245 on: October 13, 2020, 03:43:46 PM »
Bail out the EFL on the proviso that Rick Parry resigns immediately.

Offline JimmyV

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Re: Premier League reform proposals
« Reply #246 on: October 13, 2020, 03:44:51 PM »
I don't think putting something on the table that leads to the response of 'fuck off' can be seen as opening discussions.

Haha you wouldn't have thought so but the reality is that restructure is now firmly on the table and being discussed. You can envisage them now working backwards to find a compromise that can then be forced through.

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Re: Premier League reform proposals
« Reply #247 on: October 13, 2020, 03:45:34 PM »
Ourselves, Leicester and Arsenal are the 'undecided's' according to the Daily Mail (not providing a link).

What's to decide really.  It's utter cack.

Well I suppose we'll take the rap for sending 40 clubs to the wall if we don't agree.

Offline ktvillan

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Re: Premier League reform proposals
« Reply #248 on: October 13, 2020, 03:46:00 PM »
As others have alluded to, this is a red herring. A dead cat thrown on the table, a tactic often used in political strategy. I have no doubt it has been deliberately leaked despite the public protestions of Parry the willing stooge. Look how available he was to conduct media interviews with all and sundry immediately. Uncanny. They know there is not a chance in hell this would get voted through in its leaked form. What it has achieved is to open the discussion, shift the narrative and give a starting point for negotations with the aim of settling on a proposal a step or two back from the current, somewhat nuclear opening gambit. This is just a continuation of English club football being tenderised and manipulated further by financial aims. This is now big business after all, the prime concern being profit.

In terms of a work around, a Netflix style subscription service would give an opportunity for the equitable sharing of revenues to all, fuck sky/BT/Amazon etc - go straight to market. Would be worth billions and piss all over any current TV deal in terms of club revenues.

Would a subscription service be more equitable? - the big 6 would only agree to it on a per club basis and so would get a bigger share of the revenue than they do now.  It wold be like the Spanish clubs, able to negotiate their own individual deals.

And I would bet against Parry being any kind of stooge - if there is football damaging money grabbing shit flying around my money is on him being one of the organ grinders, not one of the monkeys.

Online GordonCowansisthegreatest

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Re: Premier League reform proposals
« Reply #249 on: October 13, 2020, 04:32:15 PM »
It’s strange that this only emerged following both teams getting truly destroyed and two weeks for it o be gloated over! Maybe they just dreamed it up over the weekend to give us something else to talk about? 🙃

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Re: Premier League reform proposals
« Reply #250 on: October 13, 2020, 04:39:28 PM »
I don't think it will have sat well when the clubs with big squads couldn't get the rule change through for this season that would have allowed up to 5 substitutes being used.

Offline DennisHodgetts

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Re: Premier League reform proposals
« Reply #251 on: October 13, 2020, 04:49:48 PM »
Villa effectively formed the Football league, we have owners who are as rich as Croesus, perhaps Villa (well our owners so as not to breach FFP!!) should offer a loan to the EFL on fair commercial terms to show the alleged "Big 6" what class, history and respect for your fellow competitors looks like. Just a thought :)

Offline AllanW

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Re: Premier League reform proposals
« Reply #252 on: October 13, 2020, 05:37:59 PM »
Villa effectively formed the Football league, we have owners who are as rich as Croesus, perhaps Villa (well our owners so as not to breach FFP!!) should offer a loan to the EFL on fair commercial terms to show the alleged "Big 6" what class, history and respect for your fellow competitors looks like. Just a thought :)

Oooh! Nice thinking.

A loan to tide them over the rough times without giving it all away to the Slimy 6.
A loan which they can convert at any time to supporters capital to bolster each club's ownership by the fans.
A loan with only one string; vote against the Big 6.

There are many ways to structure it, could even be a long-term bond.

I like your thinking!

Offline Big Ming

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Re: Premier League reform proposals
« Reply #253 on: October 13, 2020, 05:38:38 PM »
Ourselves, Leicester and Arsenal are the 'undecided's' according to the Daily Mail (not providing a link).

What's to decide really.  It's utter cack.

Fence sitting to see which way the wind blows.

Online Billy Walker

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Re: Premier League reform proposals
« Reply #254 on: October 13, 2020, 05:39:15 PM »
Villa effectively formed the Football league, we have owners who are as rich as Croesus, perhaps Villa (well our owners so as not to breach FFP!!) should offer a loan to the EFL on fair commercial terms to show the alleged "Big 6" what class, history and respect for your fellow competitors looks like. Just a thought :)

That might not be a bad idea, one of Wes Edens' niches is buying and rapidly rebuilding institutions in crisis.

 


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