Ross Barkley

[john e]

I think Drinkwater was a panic loan when they realised how long McGinn was going to be out for with the idea that he'd bring a bit of experience into a midfield that was very short on premier league experience.

Always amazes me how 90% of posters on this forum with our limited knowledge could see exactly what we were getting with Drinkwater and said so at the time
Yet the highly paid professionals who have direct access to the player couldn’t

Scarily it’s because of stuff like this that I wouldn’t be surprised if we ended up signing Barkley at some knockdown price

[Bobby Boy]

Dean sold Villa to Ross on the basis that he'd get him into the England picture for the Euros.

It's hard to think of another English player in the Prem further away from the England team at the minute.....

[Drummond]

Dean sold Villa to Ross on the basis that he'd get him into the England picture for the Euros.

It's hard to think of another English player in the Prem further away from the England team at the minute.....

Billy Sharp

[Bobby Boy]

Dean sold Villa to Ross on the basis that he'd get him into the England picture for the Euros.

It's hard to think of another English player in the Prem further away from the England team at the minute.....

Billy Sharp

Ha, ha, yes, I guess that's true. Serves me right for not adding 'who isn't injured'.

[Footy-Vill]

Opportunity calls again now for Ross. Several injuries to other players have now placed him back into the first eleven.
The timing is good for him as he is nearing full match fitness just needs to be picking up the sharpness

I think of all the wrong things you post, that's the wrongest yet.  Back in the first eleven my arse.

How long does he need to get fit from a hamstring injury?

Injured around mid November, it’s now mid April, but he’s “nearing full fitness”.

I'd like to give people more of the picture. To consider the situation Ross has been in regarding amount of football played.

Yes lacked full game time sharpness.
Remember the training ground was closed for 10 days and Villa didn't play for 19 days at the start of the year
9 players had covid.

He had to play 6 games in 18 days.
Ross subbed in every game struggling to complete 90mins
The One match he did play 90 (as subbed in 90th min.)He scored v Soton.
In 8 games since January to end of Feb he was unable to be given 90 mins. His minutes were being managed.

And Dean Smith said all along " unfortunately he was having to get his fitness up during games" So during that period he was hardly training because of the hectic fixtures and playing match minutes only after recovering from a hamstring injury.

Then end of Feb vs Leeds because  Barkley didn't perform well v Leicester. He was benched. We won. and he hasn't started since.

Let's. Be fair then and the bigger picture.
It's been very difficult for him since start of 2021 both in terms of form and regularly playing.
Frustrating all round. Especially last 6 to 7 weeks.
Barkley hasn't played  more than 30 minutes of football in a match coming off the bench off the pace and trying to get to speed with things.

Starting him gives his form , confidence and fitness wonders.
A nice end to the season makes all parties happy.
A player with such provern ability, quality and skill can't be written off when the match sharpness and fitness hasn't always been there its just all been very stop start.
Barkley should now have the fortune (afer all his misfortune,) to be playing in the team and can hope to see his quality again.

[Risso]

Did you watch the Liverpool game Footy?

[paul_e]

Opportunity calls again now for Ross. Several injuries to other players have now placed him back into the first eleven.
The timing is good for him as he is nearing full match fitness just needs to be picking up the sharpness

I think of all the wrong things you post, that's the wrongest yet.  Back in the first eleven my arse.

How long does he need to get fit from a hamstring injury?

Injured around mid November, it’s now mid April, but he’s “nearing full fitness”.

I'd like to give people more of the picture. To consider the situation Ross has been in regarding amount of football played.

Yes lacked full game time sharpness.
Remember the training ground was closed for 10 days and Villa didn't play for 19 days at the start of the year
9 players had covid.

He had to play 6 games in 18 days.
Ross subbed in every game struggling to complete 90mins
The One match he did play 90 (as subbed in 90th min.)He scored v Soton.
In 8 games since January to end of Feb he was unable to be given 90 mins. His minutes were being managed.

And Dean Smith said all along " unfortunately he was having to get his fitness up during games" So during that period he was hardly training because of the hectic fixtures and playing match minutes only after recovering from a hamstring injury.

Then end of Feb vs Leeds because  Barkley didn't perform well v Leicester. He was benched. We won. and he hasn't started since.

Let's. Be fair then and the bigger picture.
It's been very difficult for him since start of 2021 both in terms of form and regularly playing.
Frustrating all round. Especially last 6 to 7 weeks.
Barkley hasn't played  more than 30 minutes of football in a match coming off the bench off the pace and trying to get to speed with things.

Starting him gives his form , confidence and fitness wonders.
A nice end to the season makes all parties happy.
A player with such provern ability, quality and skill can't be written off when the match sharpness and fitness hasn't always been there its just all been very stop start.
Barkley should now have the fortune (afer all his misfortune,) to be playing in the team and can hope to see his quality again.

Most of the problems people have had with him recently and that is clearly shown in the video we've been talking about is that there has been very little evidence of him trying to get up to speed with anything. If he's short of fitness and struggling for form I could forgive that if I thought he was doing his best to change things but right now he looks like he's blaming everything else for his problems and the one thing Villa fans won't let a player do is give up like that.

[Skerra]

I feel that Barkley doesn’t really give his all for us. Someone who wants a starting place should bust a gut to prove he can do it. I really can’t see us signing him as DS will be looking for hungrier players than Ross to fit into his system. I’m sure that he has plenty of ability but hasn’t really shown much of that for us except in his first couple of matches.

[Mister E]

I'd like to give people more of the picture. To consider the situation Ross has been in regarding amount of football played.
Yes lacked full game time sharpness.
Remember the training ground was closed for 10 days and Villa didn't play for 19 days at the start of the year
9 players had covid.
He had to play 6 games in 18 days.
Ross subbed in every game struggling to complete 90mins
The One match he did play 90 (as subbed in 90th min.)He scored v Soton.
In 8 games since January to end of Feb he was unable to be given 90 mins. His minutes were being managed.
And Dean Smith said all along " unfortunately he was having to get his fitness up during games" So during that period he was hardly training because of the hectic fixtures and playing match minutes only after recovering from a hamstring injury.
Then end of Feb vs Leeds because  Barkley didn't perform well v Leicester. He was benched. We won. and he hasn't started since.
Let's. Be fair then and the bigger picture.
It's been very difficult for him since start of 2021 both in terms of form and regularly playing.
Frustrating all round. Especially last 6 to 7 weeks.
Barkley hasn't played  more than 30 minutes of football in a match coming off the bench off the pace and trying to get to speed with things.
Starting him gives his form , confidence and fitness wonders.
A nice end to the season makes all parties happy.
A player with such proven ability, quality and skill can't be written off when the match sharpness and fitness hasn't always been there its just all been very stop start.
Barkley should now have the fortune (after all his misfortune,) to be playing in the team and can hope to see his quality again.

We're in a bit of a Catch-22 with Barkley:
If we play him and  - as F-V says - he gets significantly better, we potentially pay over the odds to secure him on a perm. And, we may sign a player who flatters to deceive and does not add much next season and beyond.
Or, we play him and he continues to do little for the team between now and the end of the season and we sit in the doldrums of the not-quite-relegated group of teams.

My personal prejudice is to move on and find a better option at #10. But then, I've never been a big fan of Barkley at any of his clubs.

[frank black]

Opportunity calls again now for Ross. Several injuries to other players have now placed him back into the first eleven.
The timing is good for him as he is nearing full match fitness just needs to be picking up the sharpness

I think of all the wrong things you post, that's the wrongest yet.  Back in the first eleven my arse.

How long does he need to get fit from a hamstring injury?

Injured around mid November, it’s now mid April, but he’s “nearing full fitness”.

I'd like to give people more of the picture. To consider the situation Ross has been in regarding amount of football played.

Yes lacked full game time sharpness.
Remember the training ground was closed for 10 days and Villa didn't play for 19 days at the start of the year
9 players had covid.

He had to play 6 games in 18 days.
Ross subbed in every game struggling to complete 90mins
The One match he did play 90 (as subbed in 90th min.)He scored v Soton.
In 8 games since January to end of Feb he was unable to be given 90 mins. His minutes were being managed.

And Dean Smith said all along " unfortunately he was having to get his fitness up during games" So during that period he was hardly training because of the hectic fixtures and playing match minutes only after recovering from a hamstring injury.

Then end of Feb vs Leeds because  Barkley didn't perform well v Leicester. He was benched. We won. and he hasn't started since.

Let's. Be fair then and the bigger picture.
It's been very difficult for him since start of 2021 both in terms of form and regularly playing.
Frustrating all round. Especially last 6 to 7 weeks.
Barkley hasn't played  more than 30 minutes of football in a match coming off the bench off the pace and trying to get to speed with things.

Starting him gives his form , confidence and fitness wonders.
A nice end to the season makes all parties happy.
A player with such provern ability, quality and skill can't be written off when the match sharpness and fitness hasn't always been there its just all been very stop start.
Barkley should now have the fortune (afer all his misfortune,) to be playing in the team and can hope to see his quality again.

He’s  certainly not a player to rely upon and therefore there’s zero chance of us signing him.

[N'ZMAV]

West Ham fancy Barkley apparently. Idiots.

[andyh]

West Ham fancy Barkley apparently. Idiots.

Foil to get Lingard ?

[Footy-Vill]

Did you watch the Liverpool game Footy?

Yes Ross was off the pace.
Proves he's not totally ready.

Disappointing and frustrating all round.

[Footy-Vill]

West Ham fancy Barkley apparently. Idiots.

West Ham fancy McGinn I read. Nasty rumours that one.
If they get champions league though. They have an incentive for players.
Abraham would be on their radar too

[pauliewalnuts]

West Ham fancy Barkley apparently. Idiots.

West Ham fancy McGinn I read. Nasty rumours that one.
If they get champions league though. They have an incentive for players.
Abraham would be on their radar too

There is no way we'd lose SJM to West Ham because they'd pulled off a freak CL place (which they haven't actually done yet).