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Offline PaulWinch again

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Re: Ollie Watkins (Confirmed)
« Reply #330 on: September 16, 2020, 01:02:39 PM »
I think the ability to get into the position to score is absolutely critical. Great to see his movement.

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Re: Ollie Watkins (Confirmed)
« Reply #331 on: September 16, 2020, 01:17:29 PM »
20 tap-ins this season will do us just fine.

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Re: Ollie Watkins (Confirmed)
« Reply #332 on: September 16, 2020, 01:54:30 PM »
He's very quick too, isn't he? At least compared to our other options up front he is.

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Re: Ollie Watkins (Confirmed)
« Reply #333 on: September 16, 2020, 02:38:04 PM »
He's very quick too, isn't he? At least compared to our other options up front he is.

Quicker than Concrete Boots Wesley, Wading Through Treacle Trezeguet or Is He Actually Moving El Ghazi?  I refuse to believe it!

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Re: Ollie Watkins (Confirmed)
« Reply #334 on: September 16, 2020, 02:44:34 PM »
He's very quick too, isn't he? At least compared to our other options up front he is.

Quicker than Concrete Boots Wesley, Wading Through Treacle Trezeguet or Is He Actually Moving El Ghazi?  I refuse to believe it!

Would have liked to see more link up with him and Jack a few time Grealish could play the ball for a quick one two but he dallying .
It's just how Grealish plays but saw twice Watkins show for it and Grealish was doing his own show instead.

That's the next step get Watkins integrated in team play we seen and know he can score a goal or two. No concerns there

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Re: Ollie Watkins (Confirmed)
« Reply #335 on: September 16, 2020, 07:16:13 PM »
He's very quick too, isn't he? At least compared to our other options up front he is.

Quicker than Concrete Boots Wesley, Wading Through Treacle Trezeguet or Is He Actually Moving El Ghazi?  I refuse to believe it!

El Ghazi used to have a decent turn of pace. What happened to that? His confidence looks shot, terrible ball retention and rubbish corner kicks. Why didn't DS take him off at Half-time?

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Re: Ollie Watkins (Confirmed)
« Reply #336 on: September 16, 2020, 07:29:33 PM »
He cost me last night!
Yep. Annoyed he got taken off with 20 minutes to go!

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Re: Ollie Watkins (Confirmed)
« Reply #337 on: September 17, 2020, 10:42:36 AM »
20 tap-ins this season will do us just fine.
1 down 19 to go.
I think in overall comps Watkins could hit 20+ goals.
But realistically and based historically in a debut season could be looking for 11-14 goals premier league goals.

Only 4 strikers in debut season have achieved *15+ goals coming up from the championship in 20 years. All English
Bent 18
Austin 18
Lambert 15

The other promoted player in the last 20 years  scored 20+ goals Andy Johnson 21 goals for Palace.

Also in the last 20 years its one of the rarest occurrence for a player who hasn't played  top flight English football before to come in and get 20 Premier League goals in their first season.

Torres 24 goals
Ruud Van Nistelrooy 23 goals
Diego Costa at Chelsea 20 goals
And Andy Johnson 21 goals

On the point of debut season and amount of goals scored in prem
Darren Bent 18
Charlie Austin 18
Zlatan Ibrahimovic 17
Aguero 16
Igahalo 16
Llorente 15
Lambert
Lacazette 14

What they all have in common of course is that they are the main striker in the team.

Point of reference  debut seasons for
Raul Jimenez wolves 13
Pukki Norwich 11
Mitrovic 9

*Despite scoring 15 Prem goals Abraham scored 5 goals in his first ever season at Premier league level so he's not included.

A forecast of 11-14 premier league goals for Watkins is fair.

Though let's hope he can hit 15+ goals being the main striker in the team it's not improbable for 20 premier league goals but highly unlikely given the history
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Re: Ollie Watkins (Confirmed)
« Reply #338 on: September 20, 2020, 04:44:58 PM »
Does our Ollie normally take penalties?

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Re: Ollie Watkins (Confirmed)
« Reply #339 on: September 20, 2020, 04:51:28 PM »
No

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Re: Ollie Watkins (Confirmed)
« Reply #340 on: September 20, 2020, 04:56:10 PM »
Wheres Marcus Stewart of Ipswich and Kevin Phillips (Sunderland days) in your lists, Footy? Didn't they pwn the Prem in the early years of the nu millenia ?

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Re: Ollie Watkins (Confirmed)
« Reply #341 on: September 20, 2020, 05:00:02 PM »
No
okay, thx.
Given the number of penalties being awarded and reflecting on Ayew's wholly-inept effort yesterday I hope that Smith has given dome focus on this. I'm not sure who our established penalty-taker is: i don't recall us winning many last season (Wes took one and missed at Naaarrrich).
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Re: Ollie Watkins (Confirmed)
« Reply #342 on: September 20, 2020, 05:28:05 PM »
No
okay, thx.
Given the number of penalties being awarded and reflecting on Ayew's wholly-inept effort yesterday I hope that Smith has given dome focus on this. I'm not sure who our established penalty-taker is: i don't recall us winning many last season (Wes took one and missed at Naaarrrich).

I think Hourihane, if he's on the pitch, should take them.

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Re: Ollie Watkins (Confirmed)
« Reply #343 on: September 20, 2020, 05:57:03 PM »
No
okay, thx.
Given the number of penalties being awarded and reflecting on Ayew's wholly-inept effort yesterday I hope that Smith has given dome focus on this. I'm not sure who our established penalty-taker is: i don't recall us winning many last season (Wes took one and missed at Naaarrrich).

I think Hourihane, if he's on the pitch, should take them.
Presumably, he won't be in the starting 11 often, so it needs more than him.

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Re: Ollie Watkins (Confirmed)
« Reply #344 on: September 20, 2020, 06:23:51 PM »
I'd definitely give them to Ollie but think Jack will be our penalty taker this year.

Centre forwards should always want to take penalties to my mind, and be allowed to unless there's an obviously outstanding candidate with a great record somewhere else in the team. If you don't back yourself to score one on one with the keeper as a striker and get an easy 3 or 4 goals (or 15 if you play for United) in a season, there's surely something wrong with your confidence. I vaguely remember one of our strikers years ago, maybe Julian Joachim, saying he didn't like taking them and thought it was a bit odd.
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