Quote from: darren woolley on July 06, 2020, 11:54:35 AMDo you think we will ever get back to challenge the top six within the next ten years after having year's of being mediocre.Leicester are managing it.
Do you think we will ever get back to challenge the top six within the next ten years after having year's of being mediocre.
Exactly so. Things can and do change, all the time in football and not always for the better, but equally, not always for the worst. And you're never more than two or three good transfer windows away from success or disaster.
Quote from: Risso on July 06, 2020, 12:09:33 PMQuote from: darren woolley on July 06, 2020, 11:54:35 AMDo you think we will ever get back to challenge the top six within the next ten years after having year's of being mediocre.Leicester are managing it.Leicester's buying and selling of players has been consistently excellent since their title win and even in the period immediately before that. They have raked in big money for some of their title winning side and replaced them brilliantly. They appointed Ranieri and he won them the title. They chose to replace him and put Shakespeare in charge, who guided them to the Champions League quarter finals. They appointed Puel who did reasonably okay but they weren't happy enough with him so replaced him with Rodgers who has done a great job. Leicester's player and management recruitment has been excellent. A lot of the credit was given to their player recruitment guy at the time Steve Walsh but their transfer business has continued to be successful even since he left. The last time we had a successful recruitment spell like that it was appointing SGT, quickly realising our mistake with Dr Jo, then moving on successfully with BFR, Brian Little and John Gregory.
Abraham played his part in getting us promoted. I can't understand how anyone can see a downside to that.
Quote from: Allan C on July 06, 2020, 11:04:41 AMQuote from: PeterWithesShin on July 04, 2020, 10:18:22 PMWhat false position?We got promoted largely on the goals of another clubs player. I think that’s a false position.Who should have been promoted in our place then? Leeds(four loans)? The Stripeys (six)? Derby (five)? Or was it somehow our fault because our loans were better than theirs?
Quote from: PeterWithesShin on July 04, 2020, 10:18:22 PMWhat false position?We got promoted largely on the goals of another clubs player. I think that’s a false position.
What false position?
Quote from: dave.woodhall on July 06, 2020, 11:14:32 AMQuote from: Allan C on July 06, 2020, 11:04:41 AMQuote from: PeterWithesShin on July 04, 2020, 10:18:22 PMWhat false position?We got promoted largely on the goals of another clubs player. I think that’s a false position.Who should have been promoted in our place then? Leeds(four loans)? The Stripeys (six)? Derby (five)? Or was it somehow our fault because our loans were better than theirs?Your missing my point not replacing him is where it all went wrong IMO I don’t care who else loaned players and in what number it’s irrelevant. The fact is we got promoted with the goals of another teams player.
Not replacing Tami was the biggest failure of our transfer strategy. I dont think any one can argue that
Quote from: Allan C on July 06, 2020, 03:00:21 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on July 06, 2020, 11:14:32 AMQuote from: Allan C on July 06, 2020, 11:04:41 AMQuote from: PeterWithesShin on July 04, 2020, 10:18:22 PMWhat false position?We got promoted largely on the goals of another clubs player. I think that’s a false position.Who should have been promoted in our place then? Leeds(four loans)? The Stripeys (six)? Derby (five)? Or was it somehow our fault because our loans were better than theirs?Your missing my point not replacing him is where it all went wrong IMO I don’t care who else loaned players and in what number it’s irrelevant. The fact is we got promoted with the goals of another teams player. I answered your point, then you changed it. First you said that we shouldn't have had a loan player ("false position") then that we didn't replace him. Whether we replaced him with Wesley or with Lionel Messi, the situation was still the same. Teams loan players; that's a fact of modern football. We just happened to strike the best loan deal we've ever made, and one that was better than any other club managed. As a result we got promoted within the rules of the competition we were playing in. No false position, no missed point.
Every club in the Championship had loan players last season. Presumably they were all in false positions, or is this something that only affects the Villa?