Quote from: NorthYvillan on July 05, 2020, 02:32:36 PMQuote from: ktvillan on July 05, 2020, 02:01:04 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on July 01, 2020, 02:09:16 PMThe biggest, most frustrating, irony of the lot is that when we did have relatively big money to spend we gave it to the most myopic managers imaginable. This is the root of my immense dislike of O'Neill, less to do with the way he left, that was just typical of the man and I was glad to see the back of him. It's the arrogantly short-sighted way he took advantage of Lerner's well-financed stupidity to piss away the family silver chasing 6th spot. That was the best chance we ever had of establishing ourselves as a CL level club. He blew it.My feelings exactlySeconded.
Quote from: ktvillan on July 05, 2020, 02:01:04 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on July 01, 2020, 02:09:16 PMThe biggest, most frustrating, irony of the lot is that when we did have relatively big money to spend we gave it to the most myopic managers imaginable. This is the root of my immense dislike of O'Neill, less to do with the way he left, that was just typical of the man and I was glad to see the back of him. It's the arrogantly short-sighted way he took advantage of Lerner's well-financed stupidity to piss away the family silver chasing 6th spot. That was the best chance we ever had of establishing ourselves as a CL level club. He blew it.My feelings exactly
Quote from: dave.woodhall on July 01, 2020, 02:09:16 PMThe biggest, most frustrating, irony of the lot is that when we did have relatively big money to spend we gave it to the most myopic managers imaginable. This is the root of my immense dislike of O'Neill, less to do with the way he left, that was just typical of the man and I was glad to see the back of him. It's the arrogantly short-sighted way he took advantage of Lerner's well-financed stupidity to piss away the family silver chasing 6th spot. That was the best chance we ever had of establishing ourselves as a CL level club. He blew it.
The biggest, most frustrating, irony of the lot is that when we did have relatively big money to spend we gave it to the most myopic managers imaginable.
What false position?
Quote from: PeterWithesShin on July 04, 2020, 10:18:22 PMWhat false position?We got promoted largely on the goals of another clubs player. I think that’s a false position.
I would add that it was not only the manner and timing of O'Neill's departure that was the fulcrum on which our history turned, it was also the manner in whuch O'Neill was able to pin the club for compensation. I do not have the knowledge nor do I have the skill to judge whether or not the club were as spineless behind closed doors as they appeared to be at the time but a message went out to the wider world of football that Aston Villa were a soft touch. A reputation they have done much to perpetuate in recent times. A fill yer boots club for agents. IMO.
Do you think we will ever get back to challenge the top six within the next ten years after having year's of being mediocre.
It’s a huge gap,1. Get in a position to compete top 8.2. Get into Europa.3. Be competitive in Europa without falling out of top 8.4. Build a team from there to somehow break into top 4.This assumes starting as a PL club which is between extremely difficult to impossible. Add get out of the 2nd division, survive a couple of seasons to get to 1 and you begin to see the enormity of the task.So sadly the answer is No.
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