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Author Topic: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread  (Read 864775 times)

Offline ozzjim

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1650 on: August 06, 2020, 05:16:45 PM »
To be fair, Heaton coming back, Konsa emerging, Luiz improving and McGinn being fit all play in to improving that, and the team shape being much more compact since lockdown. Hause proved a capable backup too. I agree that we need a better left back option to push Targett and could do with replacing Engels with something better, and potentially replace Nakamba with better, but this is a very short summer. If we had put some of our chances away at 1-0 last season, we concede less goals because we don't invite the pressure so much. Also, having better options on the counter will help us.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1651 on: August 06, 2020, 05:26:07 PM »
We absolutely must acquire a proven top goalscorer - neither Wes or Davis can claim to be that and, we must not go into a new season so limited up front.

I think we need stronger options at LB and RB - Freddie and Targett both showed glimpses but also showed inconsistency and Taylor/Elmo aren't up to Premiership quality.

I think we are ok at CH - as others have said, we started to look more stable there.

Midfield is where I think we need one or two really creative players - if Grealish goes, then 2 is an absolute must because our midfield lacks creativity in the final third. I think McGinn and Luiz are very talented and will kick on next year but, stronger defensively than creatively. Our other midfield players are squad / bench impact players - Nakamba, Hourihane, etc.

So 4 or 5 for me - with that, plus a stable spine of Heaton, Mings, Konsa, Luiz, McGinn, and Grealish, I think we'll improve by at least 12-18 points and mid table comfort.   
 

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1652 on: August 06, 2020, 05:26:25 PM »
Henry at Brentford I think we be good, and perhaps Billing as a DM.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1653 on: August 06, 2020, 06:06:04 PM »
How does anyone know what the budget is? Did anyone accurately predict we’d spend £140m last summer?

your right no one knows

but for what it's worth I think we will top 100m again this year

Offline SteveN

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1654 on: August 06, 2020, 06:09:07 PM »
Danny Rose for left back perhaps?  Back at Spurs and it seems Jose is not a fan.  Only a year left on his contract I think,could get him on loan?

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1655 on: August 06, 2020, 06:19:47 PM »
the problem with this Wes, Samata and Davis arnt prolific so we need one maybe two better strikers is we can't just keep collecting them

the two latest cost around 30 mill between them and we are talking like we can just forget about them and buy some more new ones

or move them on and buy new ones
Who's going to be buying ?  Wesley's still injured and I don't think anyone is going to be breaking the door down for Samata just yet
both will be on decent wages so I don't think that's an option

I agree we need a goalscorer and I think we will get one but all these names keep coming up as if we are going to get 3
we will have to sell first (which is the big problem) before we overload one department

when you look at our forward playing options

Wesley
Samata
Davis
Trez
El Ghazi
Jota

there's not one of them that you would spend to long grieving about if they left
that's got to change this season



Edit ,  I might grieve a little bit for Davis
« Last Edit: August 06, 2020, 06:22:23 PM by john e »


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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1657 on: August 06, 2020, 06:46:00 PM »
Hmmmmmmmmm: Understand that Brentford have accepted a bid of around 45 million pounds for Benrahma and Watkins. Some add ons as well if villa avoid relegation next season

No idea who this bloke is and sounds like BS.

I'd say a Twitter account with a fake photo and 262 followers s the epitome of believable.

Offline RichardBatchelor

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1658 on: August 06, 2020, 06:50:11 PM »
Now, allegedly, there is no release clause for Watkins.

So we offer £18,000,001?
I don’t think we can afford to be that rash - we start the bidding at £18,000,000.25

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1659 on: August 06, 2020, 06:54:17 PM »
Last season the priority was to buy a quantity of  players. I think we all knew that we needed more experience.

Luiz, Mings & Konsa probably increased their value.

Heaton, Targett, Guilbert, Hause probably held their value or could improve next season.

Wesley, El Ghazi, Nakamba, Engels, Jota, Trez, & Samata have probably dropped in value & are not likely to be good enough. It's tough on Wesley because he had a big task, missed a big chunk of the season & will take a long time to recover. In Jan few of us would have rated Luiz.

Overall recruitment was much more miss than hit.

You're only as good as your forwards & ours were simply not good enough. This is the priority before next season.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1660 on: August 06, 2020, 06:58:29 PM »
Hmmmmmmmmm: Understand that Brentford have accepted a bid of around 45 million pounds for Benrahma and Watkins. Some add ons as well if villa avoid relegation next season

No idea who this bloke is and sounds like BS.

I'd say a Twitter account with a fake photo and 262 followers s the epitome of believable.

Are you...are you telling me that people post bullshit on Twitter?

Offline RichardBatchelor

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1661 on: August 06, 2020, 07:04:51 PM »
From a crowdless wembley to a full house at old trafford is a massive leap ..........
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Decibels wise, perhaps not?

Offline RichardBatchelor

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1662 on: August 06, 2020, 07:15:32 PM »
I don't think Mings' stock will have risen sufficiently this season for him to bag a move to one of the top 6.
Agreed. It will have risen a bit - the England call-up, his excellent character, and some outstanding performances - but too many ricks in him for top six.


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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1663 on: August 06, 2020, 07:15:54 PM »
At this time of year it’s amazing how many ITK’s are born.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1664 on: August 06, 2020, 07:29:09 PM »
I've been phoning Brentford restaurants to check if they've got any reservations with people with American or Egyptian sounding names.

 


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