How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?

[Demitri_C]

I see the Government are cutting the isolation period from 10 down to 7 days with negative lateral flow tests on days 6 and 7.

That'll help, I'm sure.

Its needed.  The staff shortages in some sectors is causing huge problems.

[Scott Nielsen]

There was no Epislon( this what omicron should have been called  aftwe delta) Zeta, Eta, Thea, iota, Kappa   Lambda, Mu which were all the letters after delta. As a greek, would love to know why these were left out!

There was definitely a 'Mu', because I posted some extremely witty KLF puns at the time

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20211006/mu-made-splash-disappeared-quietly

Yes, they skipped Nu (to avoid confusion with 'new') as well as Xi (for obvious reasons).

[Demitri_C]

There was no Epislon( this what omicron should have been called  aftwe delta) Zeta, Eta, Thea, iota, Kappa   Lambda, Mu which were all the letters after delta. As a greek, would love to know why these were left out!

There was definitely a 'Mu', because I posted some extremely witty KLF puns at the time

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20211006/mu-made-splash-disappeared-quietly

Yes, they skipped Nu (to avoid confusion with 'new') as well as Xi (for obvious reasons).

Thanks i was really curious why!

[Ads]

The CCP have their hand so far up the WHO backside you can practically see their hand everytime they mouth breath over a question on Taiwan.

[chrisw1]

Is it not a myth that Wales and Scotland have fared better than England during Covid?  I don't have stats to hand etc, but given the population density and international nature of London would skew figures, do the Welsh and Scots really have anything to shout about here?

Wales has the worst case rate and the worst death rate of the nations that make up the UK.

Don't really want to get in to a big politics discussion on a non-politics thread, but ...

Not sure that's a helpful comparison though. Healthcare outcomes are strongly influenced by things like income (average wage in Wales is significantly lower than almost all English regions  - ONS). There's also geography to consider, it's not uncommon for someone in Wales to be 30miles+ away from the nearest A&E department (e.g. Bala's nearest is Wrexham Maelor, 30miles away - Llandrindod is 40+ miles to Hereford ... And these are obvs not along motorways, so you're looking at 1hr+ journey time each way).


But one thing that is noticeable is that, at least from the folk in Wales that I know - is the general feeling that the English approach has been at best poor, at worst a disaster. And this isn't highly political, one side group of folk - this is across people who are pro & anti Brexit in roughly equal measure, who vote Labour, Tory, Lib Dem, and Plaid between them. It can hardly be considered anti-English sentiment when near enough half that group are English.

We know the English response has been mostly poor, other than the vaccine development, procurement and rollout.  But it's smoke and mirrors that Wales and Scotland has been better.  The amount of smoke blown up Sturgeon's backside, particularly early on, was unbelievable.  The truth is she's a better communicator than Boris and for a lot of Scots I presume more likeable.  But their outcomes are no different to England’s, despite her posturing and mischief making throughout.  The perception on the outcomes of the 3 nations is down to likeability and political allegiance more than reality. 

[chrisw1]

I see the Government are cutting the isolation period from 10 down to 7 days with negative lateral flow tests on days 6 and 7.

That'll help, I'm sure.

IF the science is that people are no longer infectious after 7 days then yes it will.  Enormously.

[waringpongo]

Is it not a myth that Wales and Scotland have fared better than England during Covid?  I don't have stats to hand etc, but given the population density and international nature of London would skew figures, do the Welsh and Scots really have anything to shout about here?

Wales has the worst case rate and the worst death rate of the nations that make up the UK.

Don't really want to get in to a big politics discussion on a non-politics thread, but ...

Not sure that's a helpful comparison though. Healthcare outcomes are strongly influenced by things like income (average wage in Wales is significantly lower than almost all English regions  - ONS). There's also geography to consider, it's not uncommon for someone in Wales to be 30miles+ away from the nearest A&E department (e.g. Bala's nearest is Wrexham Maelor, 30miles away - Llandrindod is 40+ miles to Hereford ... And these are obvs not along motorways, so you're looking at 1hr+ journey time each way).


But one thing that is noticeable is that, at least from the folk in Wales that I know - is the general feeling that the English approach has been at best poor, at worst a disaster. And this isn't highly political, one side group of folk - this is across people who are pro & anti Brexit in roughly equal measure, who vote Labour, Tory, Lib Dem, and Plaid between them. It can hardly be considered anti-English sentiment when near enough half that group are English.

We know the English response has been mostly poor, other than the vaccine development, procurement and rollout.  But it's smoke and mirrors that Wales and Scotland has been better.  The amount of smoke blown up Sturgeon's backside, particularly early on, was unbelievable.  The truth is she's a better communicator than Boris and for a lot of Scots I presume more likeable.  But their outcomes are no different to England’s, despite her posturing and mischief making throughout.  The perception on the outcomes of the 3 nations is down to likeability and political allegiance more than reality. 

The rollout of the vaccine in Wales was way ahead of England after a slow start. In fact it was second in the world for a while. As for covid deaths England is higher if you look a the internationally-recognised system for adjusting for age, what's called an age standardised mortality figure, things are very different. This method creates a comparable figure to show how many deaths a country would have had if it had the same percentage of people in each age group. This adjustment doesn't take into account the type of work the older male population did. Wales is also hamstrung in the fact that it doesn't have sole autonomy and they have to work with decisions made in Westminster.

[Ian.]

I see the Government are cutting the isolation period from 10 down to 7 days with negative lateral flow tests on days 6 and 7.

What would help is raising the £14 a day statutory sick pay to convince people to actually see if their cold is the virus or not. I really don’t understand how the government expect people to lose two thirds of their monthly income for fear of having the virus, especially now the symptoms are like the common cold.

[Ad@m]

I see the Government are cutting the isolation period from 10 down to 7 days with negative lateral flow tests on days 6 and 7.

That'll help, I'm sure.

IF the science is that people are no longer infectious after 7 days then yes it will.  Enormously.

I think it's a pretty small window of time where someone is infectious but returns a negative LFT if the LFT is administered properly.

So there's logic to the theory but it relies on the LFTs being done properly and I have zero confidence in the government that they'll require anything more than someone just opening an LFT and uploading it to the government website, whether they've used it or not.

[Lastfootstamper]

I'm not saying it's right or it's wrong, but I've long thought ten days was a conveniently round number.

[paul_e]

I see the Government are cutting the isolation period from 10 down to 7 days with negative lateral flow tests on days 6 and 7.

That'll help, I'm sure.

IF the science is that people are no longer infectious after 7 days then yes it will.  Enormously.

I think it's a pretty small window of time where someone is infectious but returns a negative LFT if the LFT is administered properly.

So there's logic to the theory but it relies on the LFTs being done properly and I have zero confidence in the government that they'll require anything more than someone just opening an LFT and uploading it to the government website, whether they've used it or not.

What's the alternative though? Video yourself taking it? Spy drones everywhere?

Trusting people to be honest is something that just has to happen because the alternatives are far worse.

[Ad@m]

It wouldn't take Jeff Bezos to change the NHS website so that as well as scanning the QR code it also reads the actual result. The new LFTs already "expire" as the lines blur after a few hours so that simple change would require people to do a test each time they had to submit one.

There would still be the risk of getting a different person to do the test, but that's a much lower risk than someone just submitting an unused test.

[OCD]

In the press conference, Gerrard said (without a glimmer of irony) that he hopes "we can continue to post some positive results for our supporters."

[sickbeggar]

In the press conference, Gerrard said (without a glimmer of irony) that he hopes "we can continue to post some positive results for our supporters."

lolz

[Lucky Eddie]

Is it not a myth that Wales and Scotland have fared better than England during Covid?  I don't have stats to hand etc, but given the population density and international nature of London would skew figures, do the Welsh and Scots really have anything to shout about here?

Wales has the worst case rate and the worst death rate of the nations that make up the UK.

Don't really want to get in to a big politics discussion on a non-politics thread, but ...

Not sure that's a helpful comparison though. Healthcare outcomes are strongly influenced by things like income (average wage in Wales is significantly lower than almost all English regions  - ONS). There's also geography to consider, it's not uncommon for someone in Wales to be 30miles+ away from the nearest A&E department (e.g. Bala's nearest is Wrexham Maelor, 30miles away - Llandrindod is 40+ miles to Hereford ... And these are obvs not along motorways, so you're looking at 1hr+ journey time each way).


But one thing that is noticeable is that, at least from the folk in Wales that I know - is the general feeling that the English approach has been at best poor, at worst a disaster. And this isn't highly political, one side group of folk - this is across people who are pro & anti Brexit in roughly equal measure, who vote Labour, Tory, Lib Dem, and Plaid between them. It can hardly be considered anti-English sentiment when near enough half that group are English.

We know the English response has been mostly poor, other than the vaccine development, procurement and rollout.  But it's smoke and mirrors that Wales and Scotland has been better.  The amount of smoke blown up Sturgeon's backside, particularly early on, was unbelievable.  The truth is she's a better communicator than Boris and for a lot of Scots I presume more likeable.  But their outcomes are no different to England’s, despite her posturing and mischief making throughout.  The perception on the outcomes of the 3 nations is down to likeability and political allegiance more than reality. 

The rollout of the vaccine in Wales was way ahead of England after a slow start. In fact it was second in the world for a while. As for covid deaths England is higher if you look a the internationally-recognised system for adjusting for age, what's called an age standardised mortality figure, things are very different. This method creates a comparable figure to show how many deaths a country would have had if it had the same percentage of people in each age group. This adjustment doesn't take into account the type of work the older male population did. Wales is also hamstrung in the fact that it doesn't have sole autonomy and they have to work with decisions made in Westminster.

Direct comparisons of home nations is naive and unhelpful.

The Scots and the Welsh have additional powers  denied to midlanders. They can tinker to suit whilst blaming the government for poor overall performance.