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Author Topic: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?  (Read 892547 times)

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #2670 on: April 25, 2020, 12:47:02 PM »
I find it very unlikely that another ball will be kicked before August, at the very least.

I think they will get football done.

Mind you, the Dutch don’t...

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/apr/25/premier-league-completion-probably-not-realistic-says-dutch-fa-president-just-spee
« Last Edit: April 25, 2020, 01:08:37 PM by aev »

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #2671 on: April 25, 2020, 01:20:18 PM »
Sadly, the decision of how we close out this season will have as much to do with what suits Sky, than what is best for football clubs, players and the public.

Football sold its soul along with the tv rights, and the financial viability of clubs is held in the balance as long as there are potential penalties for not fulfilling all fixtures. Complaining about that now will be hypocritical, given that many have built their whole business model around that principle.

The answer has to be in coming to an equitable deal between TV and football.  In my opinion, I do not think that can happen by trying to play out the season.  I think it can by working something out for the future in how football is broadcast going forward.

If a company is in financial difficulty, they want to be in control of their future.  Decisions made are theirs, not in the hands of others.  In this way they can plan their way out of it.  They are able to reduce expenditure to the minimum.  For a football club sitting and waiting for a season to recommence beyond a reasonable period, could see the end of them.  Fans of a club would rather see their club slide down the league due to cost cutting but stay afloat than go out of business.

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #2672 on: April 25, 2020, 01:31:40 PM »
Article on cricinfo talks about the joint approach sports are taking.

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/29094232/uk-government-hands-ecb-lead-viability-bio-secure-sport

Why is it that other sports can talk openly and realistically and football cannot.  Perhaps it's the media undermining the 'official' view by chasing others to comment in a way that drives the conversation or using the famous 'source close to'.  It's politics played out in the commercial world.  Is there that much of a divide between the PL and the EFL that they cannot talk as one.  We are not really hearing the official line of the PL.  They are keeping their heads down.  Perhaps what is happening now is showing the breakaway PL as being the worst thing to happen to football and what was it for, greed.

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #2673 on: April 25, 2020, 01:46:20 PM »
Probably true. You only need to look at the Newcastle situation. People raise the human rights abuse question and nothing happens, but someone raises the issue of them pirating official broadcasts and he powers that be sit up and listen

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #2674 on: April 25, 2020, 02:26:31 PM »
The Times reporting they are looking at limited venues to negate policing etc ..project restart.

I don't even know why they bothering with stadiums if there no fans ,might as well play at training grounds

There was a proposal in the Times about a week ago that the St George’s football centre could host all the games that needed to be played out, creating a sort of bubble for teams and support staff as there’s a big hotel there as well as training and medical/ physio services. If the object is simply to play the rest of the season, that could work.

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #2675 on: April 25, 2020, 02:26:40 PM »
If the table I have seen is correct what makes it tricky in the PL is the TV money is not equally shared



So much bigger loss's for those at the top

I'm sure this is the new distribution model after top clubs complained they should get more TV cash on merit




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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #2676 on: April 25, 2020, 02:44:21 PM »
If the table I have seen is correct what makes it tricky in the PL is the TV money is not equally shared



So much bigger loss's for those at the top

I'm sure this is the new distribution model after top clubs complained they should get more TV cash on merit

It's putting us on the same matchday revenue as teams with 30,000 attendances, despite us having 2 more games at home to play than some of them.  Only a million out (only) but it is an example of the inaccuracy.  Man U on more than 3 million per game in match day revenue.  Around 6 times our amount.

Commercial and retail are where big losses look to be made.  Again (according to the table), Man U on more than 20 million a game, we're on around  0.75 million.

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #2677 on: April 25, 2020, 03:39:47 PM »
Even more reason to void the league.

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #2678 on: April 25, 2020, 03:48:51 PM »
Even more reason to void the league.

Yeah - Man U’s “Jack money” up in smoke.  I like it.

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #2679 on: April 25, 2020, 03:59:30 PM »


The flip-side is those numbers represent +/-25% of the season, so the clubs should have already received the other 75%, no ? Obviously the projected losses are not trivial, but the income received should not be forgotten.

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #2680 on: April 25, 2020, 04:02:38 PM »
If the table I have seen is correct what makes it tricky in the PL is the TV money is not equally shared



So much bigger loss's for those at the top

I'm sure this is the new distribution model after top clubs complained they should get more TV cash on merit





I like the look of that, we'd only lose the equivalent of a Wesley. I think we can handle that :D

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #2681 on: April 25, 2020, 04:05:07 PM »


The flip-side is those numbers represent +/-25% of the season, so the clubs should have already received the other 75%, no ? Obviously the projected losses are not trivial, but the income received should not be forgotten.

I'm reading it as that as well but the clubs need the income to match their wages accordingly.  Income received should be taken up more or less with expenditure.

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #2682 on: April 25, 2020, 04:19:49 PM »
If the table I have seen is correct what makes it tricky in the PL is the TV money is not equally shared



So much bigger loss's for those at the top

I'm sure this is the new distribution model after top clubs complained they should get more TV cash on merit





How much accuracy is there in things like this?

I think I read that Villa had about 8,000 tickets per match that had to be kept an sold on a match by match basis i.e. outside of season tickets and corporate.  Assuming that season ticket holders do not get a refund as it stands (and that is a separate question), how do they get to £2.8m loss of income from match receipts.

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Re: How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?
« Reply #2683 on: April 25, 2020, 04:30:08 PM »
60,000 tickets @ £30 is 1.8 million.

Another 0.2 Million spent at each game on food and drink?

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