I don't think it is too strange to be pessimistic when we have been mostly shit for a decade, haven't won at home to Arsenal this century and have watched them lose countless matches we wanted them to win against mediocre opposition in the meantime. Expecting the worst while hoping to be pleasantly surprised is a good way of dealing with things for some of us.There seems to be an odd mindset creeping onto here lately that you're somehow not a proper fan or, ridiculously, "want us to lose" if you have any less than blind optimism.
What if Le Lapin self proclaims his opinion as realism?
Quote from: Le Lapin on July 20, 2020, 06:10:59 AMQuote from: lovejoy on July 19, 2020, 11:01:21 PMQuote from: Le Lapin on July 19, 2020, 09:09:35 PMIts all in our hands now. A win and a draw should do it, pending expected results elsewhere of course. If we balls this up we deserve to go down. It’s in our hands pending results elsewhere?!Yes, pending expected results elsewhere, Citeh beating Watford, Arsenal beating Watford and hoping Everton turn up against Bournemouth. So we are hoping to beat Arsenal, who outplayed Citeh at the weekend but hope that said Citeh beat Watford and then the Arsenal we manage to beat return to form to beat Watford, with nothing to play for in the league and one eye on the cup final...….Okaaaaayyyy!
Quote from: lovejoy on July 19, 2020, 11:01:21 PMQuote from: Le Lapin on July 19, 2020, 09:09:35 PMIts all in our hands now. A win and a draw should do it, pending expected results elsewhere of course. If we balls this up we deserve to go down. It’s in our hands pending results elsewhere?!Yes, pending expected results elsewhere, Citeh beating Watford, Arsenal beating Watford and hoping Everton turn up against Bournemouth.
Quote from: Le Lapin on July 19, 2020, 09:09:35 PMIts all in our hands now. A win and a draw should do it, pending expected results elsewhere of course. If we balls this up we deserve to go down. It’s in our hands pending results elsewhere?!
Its all in our hands now. A win and a draw should do it, pending expected results elsewhere of course. If we balls this up we deserve to go down.
Quote from: cdbullyweefan on July 20, 2020, 08:43:26 AMI don't think it is too strange to be pessimistic when we have been mostly shit for a decade, haven't won at home to Arsenal this century and have watched them lose countless matches we wanted them to win against mediocre opposition in the meantime. Expecting the worst while hoping to be pleasantly surprised is a good way of dealing with things for some of us.There seems to be an odd mindset creeping onto here lately that you're somehow not a proper fan or, ridiculously, "want us to lose" if you have any less than blind optimism. Perhaps if some posters were't so keen to shout down anyone who looks even vaguely supportive it might not happen.
Quote from: dave.woodhall on July 20, 2020, 09:56:56 AMQuote from: cdbullyweefan on July 20, 2020, 08:43:26 AMI don't think it is too strange to be pessimistic when we have been mostly shit for a decade, haven't won at home to Arsenal this century and have watched them lose countless matches we wanted them to win against mediocre opposition in the meantime. Expecting the worst while hoping to be pleasantly surprised is a good way of dealing with things for some of us.There seems to be an odd mindset creeping onto here lately that you're somehow not a proper fan or, ridiculously, "want us to lose" if you have any less than blind optimism. Perhaps if some posters were't so keen to shout down anyone who looks even vaguely supportive it might not happen.I don't think there has been any equivalent of the nonsense on the previous page from our Illinois Correspondent from the less confident among us.
Quote from: cdbullyweefan on July 20, 2020, 10:07:30 AMQuote from: dave.woodhall on July 20, 2020, 09:56:56 AMQuote from: cdbullyweefan on July 20, 2020, 08:43:26 AMI don't think it is too strange to be pessimistic when we have been mostly shit for a decade, haven't won at home to Arsenal this century and have watched them lose countless matches we wanted them to win against mediocre opposition in the meantime. Expecting the worst while hoping to be pleasantly surprised is a good way of dealing with things for some of us.There seems to be an odd mindset creeping onto here lately that you're somehow not a proper fan or, ridiculously, "want us to lose" if you have any less than blind optimism. Perhaps if some posters were't so keen to shout down anyone who looks even vaguely supportive it might not happen.I don't think there has been any equivalent of the nonsense on the previous page from our Illinois Correspondent from the less confident among us.You might want to read some of the previous posts, and they say Americans don’t get Irony.