I know 2 people who are furloughed but still working so are effectively, doubling their income. In the same way I know a couple of people who claim benefits but work cash in hand. Neither are anything more than a minority and government policy shouldn't be designed around these cases. That said I don't think they're the people she was referring to. I think she was talking about people who are happy to take the money and sit at home doing fuck all for as long as it takes. The problem is I don't they're a majority either. I know a lot more people who were furloughed and thought it was great for a few weeks so they could do the garden, do a bit of decorating, etc but are now bored senseless and want to get back to normal with going to work being part of that.
There is a deeply unattractive characteristic in a lot of people in this country that manifests in a sense that we're only happy to help people if the recipient is truly miserable about receiving that help.Edit: a case in point - medical marijuana. I remember watching a tedious round of debates whereby people were postulating that it would only be acceptable if some way could be found to remove the element that gets people high. Fuck's sake.
I thought her gripe wasn't furloughing itself, rather "a culture of do nothing entitlement". Which is pretty Daily Mail.
Quote from: aev on May 19, 2020, 01:42:11 PMI thought her gripe wasn't furloughing itself, rather "a culture of do nothing entitlement". Which is pretty Daily Mail.100% correct. She even said she thought furloughing was a good idea. It was lazy, stupid thinking, blurted out on Twitter. If she was just someone random posting this then she'd be lost in the crowd. In reality, she's a senior director at the Villa and needs to behave like one. Could you imagine Smith or Purslow coming out with this sort of thing? Of course not, they've got more sense.
Quote from: Ad@m on May 19, 2020, 04:35:20 PMQuote from: aev on May 19, 2020, 01:42:11 PMI thought her gripe wasn't furloughing itself, rather "a culture of do nothing entitlement". Which is pretty Daily Mail.100% correct. She even said she thought furloughing was a good idea. It was lazy, stupid thinking, blurted out on Twitter. If she was just someone random posting this then she'd be lost in the crowd. In reality, she's a senior director at the Villa and needs to behave like one. Could you imagine Smith or Purslow coming out with this sort of thing? Of course not, they've got more sense. More sense not to say it out loud, or more sense not to think it in the first place?
But when voicing it, I'm sure she would have been of the opinion that what she said would be well received. She's not Katie Hopkins, it's not like she'd overtly courted controversy before, and I don't think she did this time.
I believe the reverse of that. She promotes views not because she believes in them deeply but because she craves the attention they generate. Just like Boris Johnson.
Quote from: brian green on May 19, 2020, 06:09:13 PMI believe the reverse of that. She promotes views not because she believes in them deeply but because she craves the attention they generate. Just like Boris Johnson.I thought this when she was having an argument with Martin O'Neill when they were working for the BBC during the 2018 World Cup. It seemed she was trying to take on the person she perceived to have the biggest intellect in order to prove herself superior when there was no real need to.
Quote from: Exeter 77 on May 19, 2020, 09:17:25 PMQuote from: brian green on May 19, 2020, 06:09:13 PMI believe the reverse of that. She promotes views not because she believes in them deeply but because she craves the attention they generate. Just like Boris Johnson.I thought this when she was having an argument with Martin O'Neill when they were working for the BBC during the 2018 World Cup. It seemed she was trying to take on the person she perceived to have the biggest intellect in order to prove herself superior when there was no real need to.[2009] He hasn't even got a law degree. [/2009]
Quote from: Sexual Ealing on May 19, 2020, 09:20:46 PMQuote from: Exeter 77 on May 19, 2020, 09:17:25 PMQuote from: brian green on May 19, 2020, 06:09:13 PMI believe the reverse of that. She promotes views not because she believes in them deeply but because she craves the attention they generate. Just like Boris Johnson.I thought this when she was having an argument with Martin O'Neill when they were working for the BBC during the 2018 World Cup. It seemed she was trying to take on the person she perceived to have the biggest intellect in order to prove herself superior when there was no real need to.[2009] He hasn't even got a law degree. [/2009]I thought that at the time because she has and I couldn't see what she was trying to prove.