Aston Villa Women - Eni Aluko

[LeeB]

She's expressed an opinion that some of you, me included, don't agree with.

However, I do know a few guys, on a trade forum, who are, either, getting furlough, claiming grants etc and saying they want this to go one for as long as possible because they're rolling in money now.

She, probably, realises the error she's made. So maybe we should just draw a line under it and leave it now?

Slightly different situation, I know, but, Vil I an is getting hammered for 'Not letting go' on the Jack Grealish thread 

What so getting 80% of the money you used to get is rolling in it? I smell bullshit.

In my experience, the self-employed (of which I was recently part of) tend to wildly exaggerate their earnings depending on whose asking.

[ChicagoLion]

She's expressed an opinion that some of you, me included, don't agree with.

However, I do know a few guys, on a trade forum, who are, either, getting furlough, claiming grants etc and saying they want this to go one for as long as possible because they're rolling in money now.

She, probably, realises the error she's made. So maybe we should just draw a line under it and leave it now?

Slightly different situation, I know, but, Vil I an is getting hammered for 'Not letting go' on the Jack Grealish thread 

What so getting 80% of the money you used to get is rolling in it? I smell bullshit.

In my experience, the self-employed (of which I was recently part of) tend to wildly exaggerate their earnings depending on whose asking.

There is a lot of free money out there and the system is getting gamed.
Is she the rather attractive lady who was a pundit at Wimens World Cup?

[cdbearsfan]

She's expressed an opinion that some of you, me included, don't agree with.

However, I do know a few guys, on a trade forum, who are, either, getting furlough, claiming grants etc and saying they want this to go one for as long as possible because they're rolling in money now.

She, probably, realises the error she's made. So maybe we should just draw a line under it and leave it now?

Slightly different situation, I know, but, Vil I an is getting hammered for 'Not letting go' on the Jack Grealish thread 

I think people were just reacting as the story had developed, therefore adding new posts on here made sense. I can't see any of her subsequent Tweets but would agree that, while in the wrong on this occasion, her skin colour has fuck all to do with anything and nobody should suffer racial abuse.

[Lastfootstamper]

She's expressed an opinion that some of you, me included, don't agree with.

However, I do know a few guys, on a trade forum, who are, either, getting furlough, claiming grants etc and saying they want this to go one for as long as possible because they're rolling in money now.

She, probably, realises the error she's made. So maybe we should just draw a line under it and leave it now?

Slightly different situation, I know, but, Vil I an is getting hammered for 'Not letting go' on the Jack Grealish thread 

What so getting 80% of the money you used to get is rolling in it? I smell bullshit.

In my experience, the self-employed (of which I was recently part of) tend to wildly exaggerate their earnings depending on whose asking.

It is nonsense. My SE grant came through today. Very welcome, I must say. But if my work had carried on in the same vein that it was, I could have earned considerably more in this time.

[AV82EC]

She's expressed an opinion that some of you, me included, don't agree with.

However, I do know a few guys, on a trade forum, who are, either, getting furlough, claiming grants etc and saying they want this to go one for as long as possible because they're rolling in money now.

She, probably, realises the error she's made. So maybe we should just draw a line under it and leave it now?

Slightly different situation, I know, but, Vil I an is getting hammered for 'Not letting go' on the Jack Grealish thread 

What so getting 80% of the money you used to get is rolling in it? I smell bullshit.

In my experience, the self-employed (of which I was recently part of) tend to wildly exaggerate their earnings depending on whose asking.

There is a lot of free money out there and the system is getting gamed.
Is she the rather attractive lady who was a pundit at Wimens World Cup?

How is the system getting gamed?

[cdbearsfan]

I'm not sure how anyone is "gaming" the system, that's total bollocks. Employers decide on who gets furloughed, not employees.

[aev]

My self employed neighbour is claiming and is now working.

I also know 2 people that have been furloughed by their employers - one is desperate to get back to work and the other is quite happy with her circumstances.

Different people have different motivations I guess, but it was a pretty silly thing to say.

[nigel]

She's expressed an opinion that some of you, me included, don't agree with.

However, I do know a few guys, on a trade forum, who are, either, getting furlough, claiming grants etc and saying they want this to go one for as long as possible because they're rolling in money now.

She, probably, realises the error she's made. So maybe we should just draw a line under it and leave it now?

Slightly different situation, I know, but, Vil I an is getting hammered for 'Not letting go' on the Jack Grealish thread 

What so getting 80% of the money you used to get is rolling in it? I smell bullshit.

I don’t doubt there are a few, for sure, but, many are continuing to work, cash only, in empty properties or outside jobs. Believe it or not people still want tradesmen to come and work.
My trade, now, is painting and decorating. I can’t claim a penny due to my Fire Service pension, so in that regard I’m very lucky, so I was able to postpone all my booked in work. I’ve had a few enquiries of my availability while all this is going on, so could easily have carried on

[Lastfootstamper]

She's expressed an opinion that some of you, me included, don't agree with.

However, I do know a few guys, on a trade forum, who are, either, getting furlough, claiming grants etc and saying they want this to go one for as long as possible because they're rolling in money now.

She, probably, realises the error she's made. So maybe we should just draw a line under it and leave it now?

Slightly different situation, I know, but, Vil I an is getting hammered for 'Not letting go' on the Jack Grealish thread 

What so getting 80% of the money you used to get is rolling in it? I smell bullshit.

I don’t doubt there are a few, for sure, but, many are continuing to work, cash only, in empty properties or outside jobs. Believe it or not people still want tradesmen to come and work.
My trade, now, is painting and decorating. I can’t claim a penny due to my Fire Service pension, so in that regard I’m very lucky.

Yeah, but that's not the same, that's tax evasion and fraud.

Edit: along with possibly being a public health menace.

[Nev]

Surely the point isn't that some people will fiddle the system but that she made the insinuation that all people on Furlough will become lazy and entitled?

It's a common right wing trope used as an argument against the welfare state and demonstrates a thought process that thinks the very worst of people regardless of the evidence.

[nigel]

She's expressed an opinion that some of you, me included, don't agree with.

However, I do know a few guys, on a trade forum, who are, either, getting furlough, claiming grants etc and saying they want this to go one for as long as possible because they're rolling in money now.

She, probably, realises the error she's made. So maybe we should just draw a line under it and leave it now?

Slightly different situation, I know, but, Vil I an is getting hammered for 'Not letting go' on the Jack Grealish thread 

What so getting 80% of the money you used to get is rolling in it? I smell bullshit.

I don’t doubt there are a few, for sure, but, many are continuing to work, cash only, in empty properties or outside jobs. Believe it or not people still want tradesmen to come and work.
My trade, now, is painting and decorating. I can’t claim a penny due to my Fire Service pension, so in that regard I’m very lucky.

Yeah, but that's not the same, that's tax evasion and fraud.

Edit: along with possibly being a public health menace.

Can’t disagree, mate, but, if someone is giving you money not to work and you can, more than likely,  almost double your usual earnings by carrying on working for cash you’d want this pandemic to carry on.

I’m certainly not defending these guys.

[aev]

I thought her gripe wasn't furloughing itself, rather "a culture of do nothing entitlement".

Which is pretty Daily Mail.

[Brend'Watkins]

She's expressed an opinion that some of you, me included, don't agree with.

However, I do know a few guys, on a trade forum, who are, either, getting furlough, claiming grants etc and saying they want this to go one for as long as possible because they're rolling in money now.

She, probably, realises the error she's made. So maybe we should just draw a line under it and leave it now?

Slightly different situation, I know, but, Vil I an is getting hammered for 'Not letting go' on the Jack Grealish thread 

What so getting 80% of the money you used to get is rolling in it? I smell bullshit.

I don’t doubt there are a few, for sure, but, many are continuing to work, cash only, in empty properties or outside jobs. Believe it or not people still want tradesmen to come and work.
My trade, now, is painting and decorating. I can’t claim a penny due to my Fire Service pension, so in that regard I’m very lucky.

Yeah, but that's not the same, that's tax evasion and fraud.

Edit: along with possibly being a public health menace.

Can’t disagree, mate, but, if someone is giving you money not to work and you can, more than likely,  almost double your usual earnings by carrying on working for cash you’d want this pandemic to carry on.

I’m certainly not defending these guys.

I'm fairly sure it goes on.  Of course it does. probably as much as some Europeans who come over here to take advantage of our "relaxed benefit system".  It's a very, very small amount of people.

[paul_e]

I know 2 people who are furloughed but still working so are effectively, doubling their income. In the same way I know a couple of people who claim benefits but work cash in hand. Neither are anything more than a minority and government policy shouldn't be designed around these cases. That said I don't think they're the people she was referring to. I think she was talking about people who are happy to take the money and sit at home doing fuck all for as long as it takes. The problem is I don't they're a majority either. I know a lot more people who were furloughed and thought it was great for a few weeks so they could do the garden, do a bit of decorating, etc but are now bored senseless and want to get back to normal with going to work being part of that.

[Sexual Ealing]

There is a deeply unattractive characteristic in a lot of people in this country that manifests in a sense that we're only happy to help people if the recipient is truly miserable about receiving that help.

Edit: a case in point - medical marijuana. I remember watching a tedious round of debates whereby people were postulating that it would only be acceptable if some way could be found to remove the element that gets people high. Fuck's sake.