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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Drummond on January 22, 2020, 10:05:57 AM
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A really positive and high-profile move in my view.
Eni Aluko joins the Villa family (https://twitter.com/EniAlu/status/1219915592708378624)
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Yeah, welcome and good luck. She always seems to know her stuff when I've seen her on the telly and hopefully having someone of her stature in the women's game around the place will be beneficial to the players.
Shame she's not playing!
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I'm really pleased we have Eni at our club welcome and good luck Eni.
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I caught sight of this briefly on that yellow ticker on SSPN and nearly fainted, I though she'd replaced Suso.
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Good luck Eni.
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Welcome Eni to the Famous Aston Villa, the best club in the world
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Good Luck Eni
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Great appointment.
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Good luck Eni.
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Brilliant coup - big name so brilliant for profile
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Yet more good, positive news coming out of Villa Park ….. I need to go for a lie down
Well done whoever is responsible for this bit of recruitment
Unlike Drinkwater, at least we know she is fit ;)
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I caught sight of this briefly on that yellow ticker on SSPN and nearly fainted, I though she'd replaced Suso.
Give it a few years and I'd be ok with that, she's great, knows the game inside out, is very smart and comes across really well on TV, etc. Fantastic appointment with shows clearly that we're planning on making a big splash in the womens game. When officials, managers and administrators are moving freely between the mens and womens game will be the point where true equality will have been reached, not with what happens on the pitch.
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I caught sight of this briefly on that yellow ticker on SSPN and nearly fainted, I though she'd replaced Suso.
Give it a few years and I'd be ok with that, she's great, knows the game inside out, is very smart and comes across really well on TV, etc. Fantastic appointment with shows clearly that we're planning on making a big splash in the womens game. When officials, managers and administrators are moving freely between the mens and womens game will be the point where true equality will have been reached, not with what happens on the pitch.
Don't get me wrong, it was more the fact that I thought we'd suddenly replaced the DOF rather than who it was. I ain't no gammon bruv.
Although I could do with a little less Karen Carney about the game.
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Really good news for the club, always liked her when she has been on the telly and how she handled the trouble with her douche bag ex manager. Isn't she a local too ?
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I caught sight of this briefly on that yellow ticker on SSPN and nearly fainted, I though she'd replaced Suso.
Give it a few years and I'd be ok with that, she's great, knows the game inside out, is very smart and comes across really well on TV, etc. Fantastic appointment with shows clearly that we're planning on making a big splash in the womens game. When officials, managers and administrators are moving freely between the mens and womens game will be the point where true equality will have been reached, not with what happens on the pitch.
Don't get me wrong, it was more the fact that I thought we'd suddenly replaced the DOF rather than who it was. I ain't no gammon bruv.
Although I could do with a little less Karen Carney about the game.
I understood and in no way thought that's how you meant it otherwise. It was just a good lead in to me pointing out that I think she'll be a great choice in a director style role for someone in a few years, and could easily be a bridge between the mens and womens teams.
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Fantastic appointment
https://video.avfc.co.uk/video/dm9kJTdDMF91MWE3bjR6NSU3QyUyRnNlY3Rpb24lM0ZzbHVnJTNEYnJvd3NlJTdDYnJvd3NlJTJGYWxsX2ZlZWRz (https://video.avfc.co.uk/video/dm9kJTdDMF91MWE3bjR6NSU3QyUyRnNlY3Rpb24lM0ZzbHVnJTNEYnJvd3NlJTdDYnJvd3NlJTJGYWxsX2ZlZWRz)
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Shame she's not still playing! Welcome Eni.
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Welcome Eni!
I’m really pleased, I like her. What a coup to get her at the Villa!
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With promotion all but confirmed, this is a great long term appointment. Gemma Davies is doing a great job as coach and she’s only mid 20s I think so she could learn so much off her.
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Good write up in the Guardian.
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Really good news for the club, always liked her when she has been on the telly and how she handled the trouble with her douche bag ex manager. Isn't she a local too ?
She and her brother are London born but her brother started his career at Small Heath.
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She was born in Lagos, so not quite "London born". She moved to Birminghan when she was one. Both siblings played for Small Heath.
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She was born in Lagos, so not quite "London born". She moved to Birminghan when she was one. Both siblings played for Small Heath.
Now she should disown those siblings.
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She was born in Lagos, so not quite "London born". She moved to Birminghan when she was one. Both siblings played for Small Heath.
Now she should disown those siblings.
She was one of them...
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Someone’s had a busy day on Twitter...
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An apology of sorts this morning and all traces of any connection with Aston Villa appear to have disappeared from her biog and profile pics.
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A footballer/former footballer complaining about do nothing entitlement. They are funny.
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Her remarks came as Chancellor Rishi Sunak today confirmed that people living off the furlough scheme will be able to do so until October.
Here's the language starting to creep in already.
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An apology of sorts this morning and all traces of any connection with Aston Villa appear to have disappeared from her biog and profile pics.
She apologised for having offended some people but essentially stands by her remarks: "No generalisations or widespread offence was intended. Just a personal opinion on the future economy in this crisis."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52644983 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52644983)
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Urgh there’s nothing worse than “I’m sorry if you were offended.”
Honestly, it might be your opinion but how about keep it to yourself.
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An apology of sorts this morning and all traces of any connection with Aston Villa appear to have disappeared from her biog and profile pics.
She apologised for having offended some people but essentially stands by her remarks: "No generalisations or widespread offence was intended. Just a personal opinion on the future economy in this crisis."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52644983 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52644983)
Gobshite.
*not you Hilts, obvs.
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Love this:
"The tweets that seem to have upset people the most have been deleted. I have no interest in being a source of further public upset."
more like "I have no interest in digging myself further into a hole that might have some far-reaching consequences for my future career"
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A big name. Great for the club's profile.
Good luck Eni.
Edit: WTF happened?
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What a stupid person she is. I haven’t had a single period of unemployment since I left college and I now find myself furloughed. I absolutely hate every second of it and the constant thoughts going through my head about whether this is furlough or delayed redundancy.
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Wasn't she the one in the news for another controversy a while ago? I go and watch the Villa ladies a few times, not seen her there yet. Highly spoken of though.
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What a stupid person she is. I haven’t had a single period of unemployment since I left college and I now find myself furloughed. I absolutely hate every second of it and the constant thoughts going through my head about whether this is furlough or delayed redundancy.
Precisely mate. My wife works at the same company as me, she only joined in Feb after 12 years at the same place, she absolutely loves her new job but it's an internal recruitment role, and all recruitment was ceased by the business with immediate effect when it all kicked off. She's furloughed, and they're topping up her wages so we can't complain, but she's understandably anxious as to if she'll have a job to back to, especially given her trade.
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What a stupid person she is. I haven’t had a single period of unemployment since I left college and I now find myself furloughed. I absolutely hate every second of it and the constant thoughts going through my head about whether this is furlough or delayed redundancy.
Precisely mate. My wife works at the same company as me, she only joined in Feb after 12 years at the same place, she absolutely loves her new job but it's an internal recruitment role, and all recruitment was ceased by the business with immediate effect when it all kicked off. She's furloughed, and they're topping up her wages so we can't complain, but she's understandably anxious as to if she'll have a job to back to, especially given her trade.
Recruitment is going to be bloody hard, best of luck to her.
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What a stupid person she is. I haven’t had a single period of unemployment since I left college and I now find myself furloughed. I absolutely hate every second of it and the constant thoughts going through my head about whether this is furlough or delayed redundancy.
Precisely mate. My wife works at the same company as me, she only joined in Feb after 12 years at the same place, she absolutely loves her new job but it's an internal recruitment role, and all recruitment was ceased by the business with immediate effect when it all kicked off. She's furloughed, and they're topping up her wages so we can't complain, but she's understandably anxious as to if she'll have a job to back to, especially given her trade.
Recruitment is going to be bloody hard, best of luck to her.
These things will always pick up and hopefully we’ll all be back...including the Villa if relegated....god I’m bored though 😂
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What a stupid person she is. I haven’t had a single period of unemployment since I left college and I now find myself furloughed. I absolutely hate every second of it and the constant thoughts going through my head about whether this is furlough or delayed redundancy.
Precisely mate. My wife works at the same company as me, she only joined in Feb after 12 years at the same place, she absolutely loves her new job but it's an internal recruitment role, and all recruitment was ceased by the business with immediate effect when it all kicked off. She's furloughed, and they're topping up her wages so we can't complain, but she's understandably anxious as to if she'll have a job to back to, especially given her trade.
Recruitment is going to be bloody hard, best of luck to her.
Thanks Jon.
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Has she left the club yet?
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What a strange time to jump on this by her . It has only just started!
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Has she left the club yet?
Her Twitter profile no longer mentions us, it did yesterday.
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So dumb. I mean apart from anything else she’s had a go at a quarter of the working population. And she’s done it before there are any reasonable grounds that to suggest anyone is taking the piss more or less than anyone else.
It speaks of existing noxious views on benefits claimants and it’s just thick to mash these two things together.
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Has she left the club yet?
Her Twitter profile no longer mentions us, it did yesterday.
Her biog still says "Pundit, Sporting Director, Lawyer" so she's still claiming the job title even if she's not got the mentioning the club.
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Has she left the club yet?
Her Twitter profile no longer mentions us, it did yesterday.
Her biog still says "Pundit, Sporting Director, Lawyer" so she's still claiming the job title even if she's not got the mentioning the club.
"Gobshite, former Sporting Director, Gobshite"
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What a stupid person she is. I haven’t had a single period of unemployment since I left college and I now find myself furloughed. I absolutely hate every second of it and the constant thoughts going through my head about whether this is furlough or delayed redundancy.
I suspect Eni, like a lot of right wing people, loathe people on benefits and just assumes everyone are spongers who are. They also cannot or will not believe they are led by a loon and so have to defend him to the hilt. So when most of the country are obviously confused from Sundays speech and even the subsequent followups, she has to try to defend so has a chance when people who are furloughed cheer on some clarity from the one person in the government who seems to know what they are doing in their role.
I also suspect that there is no punditry, not law firm and maybe is not fully employed by Villa or has even been let go due to no Womens football for several months. So she is also angry that no money is available so needs to attract attention. The Heil jumped to her defence so expect the first column there soon.
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I knew she was a tory from a few years back but she'd done a good job of not allowing her politics to define her but this is just stupid and I'm very disappointed that she did it with the clubs name all over her profile.
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I knew she was a tory from a few years back but she'd done a good job of not allowing her politics to define her but this is just stupid and I'm very disappointed that she did it with the clubs name all over her profile.
It’s not about Tory or Labour. It’s uneducated at best or just plain nasty. Both left and right are more than capable of both.
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I knew she was a tory from a few years back but she'd done a good job of not allowing her politics to define her but this is just stupid and I'm very disappointed that she did it with the clubs name all over her profile.
It’s not about Tory or Labour. It’s uneducated at best or just plain nasty. Both left and right are more than capable of both.
While I fully agree with you, in this instance it's pretty characteristic Tory thinking.
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I knew she was a tory from a few years back but she'd done a good job of not allowing her politics to define her but this is just stupid and I'm very disappointed that she did it with the clubs name all over her profile.
It’s not about Tory or Labour. It’s uneducated at best or just plain nasty. Both left and right are more than capable of both.
In many cases I'd agree but these specific tweets are tory/right to the core and specifically the 'come good' tories who think that they made a 'success' of themselves through hardwork and determination and therefore anyone who isn't the same is feckless and lazy.
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Queen of type, the Rt Hon Esther McVey.
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I knew she was a tory from a few years back but she'd done a good job of not allowing her politics to define her but this is just stupid and I'm very disappointed that she did it with the clubs name all over her profile.
It’s not about Tory or Labour. It’s uneducated at best or just plain nasty. Both left and right are more than capable of both.
Definitely uneducated. She went to the same school I did it seems. Years after me though.
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I knew she was a tory from a few years back but she'd done a good job of not allowing her politics to define her but this is just stupid and I'm very disappointed that she did it with the clubs name all over her profile.
It’s not about Tory or Labour. It’s uneducated at best or just plain nasty. Both left and right are more than capable of both.
In many cases I'd agree but these specific tweets are tory/right to the core and specifically the 'come good' tories who think that they made a 'success' of themselves through hardwork and determination and therefore anyone who isn't the same is feckless and lazy.
Agreed, Paul.
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Queen of type, the Rt Hon Esther McVey.
Priti Patel and Nadine Dorries do it as well, and there are loads of blokes like it, including a huge amount of tradesmen who own a few properties on the side.
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I thought it was the Tories that thought of the Furlough scheme and have now extended it to October - maybe I am wrong and it was Stammer (and his mates, that did this)?
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And??
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And??
Not wishing to speak for sid, but I took it as him pointing out the irony of a "staunch" Conservative being highly critical of the recipients of a tory government policy introduced to help the country get through a time of national crisis.
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I knew she was a tory from a few years back but she'd done a good job of not allowing her politics to define her but this is just stupid and I'm very disappointed that she did it with the clubs name all over her profile.
It’s not about Tory or Labour. It’s uneducated at best or just plain nasty. Both left and right are more than capable of both.
Spot on. Without getting too political it is possible to vote Tory and not be some extreme right winger or have no heart/social conscience. I'm not saying Aluko fits into this description but using reference to her simply as a Tory is unfair on people who vote that way in my view. There are ill educated and dangerous people on both sides of the spectrum, mainly the far ends of them.
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It was possible, it isn't now. The Conservatives are a Far Right party now. If in doubt, look at who they are aligned with in their Brexit ideology. No moderate favours a No Deal scenario that now seems inevitable.
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I'm only a simple working man,i retire in September,currently furloughed,what a waste of air i have been for all these year's(started work on my 16th birthday),so happy to have my failing's pointed out to me by such a thoughtful,kind,and considerate fellow human being.
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It speak volumes that when she comments on the situation, she punches downwards, lazy workers, benefit cheats, do nothing culture etc.
She doesn't go after the big corporations, corruption, tax evasion, tax avoidance, doesn't go after landlords insisting rents are paid regardless of whether buisnesses are operational or not.
She doesn't think "I've done ok I will look out for others" she thinks "I've done ok so there's no excuse for anyone else to do the same"
And when she's challenged she throws a tantrum.
Sounds like a bloody horrible human being to be honest.
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It was possible, it isn't now. The Conservatives are a Far Right party now. If in doubt, look at who they are aligned with in their Brexit ideology. No moderate favours a No Deal scenario that now seems inevitable.
It's hard for some to accept that the ideology they favor has been twisted and corrupted and the party into the abomination it is right now.
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I knew she was a tory from a few years back but she'd done a good job of not allowing her politics to define her but this is just stupid and I'm very disappointed that she did it with the clubs name all over her profile.
It’s not about Tory or Labour. It’s uneducated at best or just plain nasty. Both left and right are more than capable of both.
Spot on. Without getting too political it is possible to vote Tory and not be some extreme right winger or have no heart/social conscience. I'm not saying Aluko fits into this description but using reference to her simply as a Tory is unfair on people who vote that way in my view. There are ill educated and dangerous people on both sides of the spectrum, mainly the far ends of them.
I don't disagree and I never said anything that suggests I would. I simply posted that these comments were highly political and fit perfectly with the view of a huge number of tories right now.
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I wonder what Eni thinks of the Investment Banker Terrorists who crashed our economy in 2007/8.
I'm guessing that laying waste an economic system counts as 'working' in her world-view, so they'll probably gat a free pass.
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It was Labour in charge so all their fault for letting it happen. You would never catch a Tory government propping up failing businesses.....
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Too right, mate!
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It speak volumes that when she comments on the situation, she punches downwards, lazy workers, benefit cheats, do nothing culture etc.
She doesn't go after the big corporations, corruption, tax evasion, tax avoidance, doesn't go after landlords insisting rents are paid regardless of whether buisnesses are operational or not.
She doesn't think "I've done ok I will look out for others" she thinks "I've done ok so there's no excuse for anyone else to do the same"
And when she's challenged she throws a tantrum.
Sounds like a bloody horrible human being to be honest.
Her attitude seems to echo the opinions of those compassionate, intellectual heavyweights Dominic Raab, Piriti Patel, Kwasi Kwarteng, Chris Skidmore and - not forgetting - Liz Truss in their 2012 book: “Brittania Unchained” which derides British workers as “among the worst idlers in the world” (“We work among the lowest hours, we retire early and our productivity is poor. Whereas Indian children aspire to be doctors or businessmen, the British are more interested in football and pop music.”) The UK, it declared, should “stop indulging in irrelevant debates about sharing the pie between manufacturing and services, the north and the south, women and men”.
I'm sure working people in Britain who don't have 'interesting' tax arrangements in Bermuda, Panama or Cayman, but voted Tory were pleased to be made aware of these opinions in the Murdoch/Mail newspapers?
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She's been tweeting again today.
Apparently her family have been getting racist abuse which is obviously bang out of order.
However, rather than report it to the police and keep schtum she decided the best course of action was to go on the offensive on Twitter to say that it's tough shit if people are offended because she's already apologised and if you don't like what she has to say you know where the unfollow button is.
Her attitude throughout this has been horrendous and if the club told her to do one I wouldn't be at all sorry to see her go.
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The club might have done that already being as she has removed AVFCWomen from her bio. She deserves to be criticised on her stance and her politics. Why on earth do arseholes need to go down the racial route though apparently.
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She's still completely unrepentant, "if you remain offended, it's your choice, I can't help you" apparently she apologised.
Also she wants criticising Brits apparently, or all people on being furloughed.
Abuse is awful and terrible. But her comments were also appalling.
She doesn't get the moral high ground here.. what she said was disgusting, what's she's said today equally stupid and the racist abuse she has received is abhorrant.
But she doesn't get to wipe away what she said.
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The club might have done that already being as she has removed AVFCWomen from her bio. She deserves to be criticised on her stance and her politics. Why on earth do arseholes need to go down the racial route though apparently.
Exactly. What she's done is express a political opinion, and then doubled down on it. It's an opinion I couldn't agree less with but the racial abuse she's got in response is a whole other level of shit.
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The club might have done that already being as she has removed AVFCWomen from her bio. She deserves to be criticised on her stance and her politics. Why on earth do arseholes need to go down the racial route though apparently.
Exactly. What she's done is express a political opinion, and then doubled down on it. It's an opinion I couldn't agree less with but the racial abuse she's got in response is a whole other level of shit.
100% correct.
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She's expressed an opinion that some of you, me included, don't agree with.
However, I do know a few guys, on a trade forum, who are, either, getting furlough, claiming grants etc and saying they want this to go one for as long as possible because they're rolling in money now.
She, probably, realises the error she's made. So maybe we should just draw a line under it and leave it now?
Slightly different situation, I know, but, Vil I an is getting hammered for 'Not letting go' on the Jack Grealish thread ;)
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She's expressed an opinion that some of you, me included, don't agree with.
However, I do know a few guys, on a trade forum, who are, either, getting furlough, claiming grants etc and saying they want this to go one for as long as possible because they're rolling in money now.
She, probably, realises the error she's made. So maybe we should just draw a line under it and leave it now?
Slightly different situation, I know, but, Vil I an is getting hammered for 'Not letting go' on the Jack Grealish thread ;)
What so getting 80% of the money you used to get is rolling in it? I smell bullshit.
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She's expressed an opinion that some of you, me included, don't agree with.
However, I do know a few guys, on a trade forum, who are, either, getting furlough, claiming grants etc and saying they want this to go one for as long as possible because they're rolling in money now.
She, probably, realises the error she's made. So maybe we should just draw a line under it and leave it now?
Slightly different situation, I know, but, Vil I an is getting hammered for 'Not letting go' on the Jack Grealish thread ;)
What so getting 80% of the money you used to get is rolling in it? I smell bullshit.
In my experience, the self-employed (of which I was recently part of) tend to wildly exaggerate their earnings depending on whose asking.
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She's expressed an opinion that some of you, me included, don't agree with.
However, I do know a few guys, on a trade forum, who are, either, getting furlough, claiming grants etc and saying they want this to go one for as long as possible because they're rolling in money now.
She, probably, realises the error she's made. So maybe we should just draw a line under it and leave it now?
Slightly different situation, I know, but, Vil I an is getting hammered for 'Not letting go' on the Jack Grealish thread ;)
What so getting 80% of the money you used to get is rolling in it? I smell bullshit.
In my experience, the self-employed (of which I was recently part of) tend to wildly exaggerate their earnings depending on whose asking.
There is a lot of free money out there and the system is getting gamed.
Is she the rather attractive lady who was a pundit at Wimens World Cup?
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She's expressed an opinion that some of you, me included, don't agree with.
However, I do know a few guys, on a trade forum, who are, either, getting furlough, claiming grants etc and saying they want this to go one for as long as possible because they're rolling in money now.
She, probably, realises the error she's made. So maybe we should just draw a line under it and leave it now?
Slightly different situation, I know, but, Vil I an is getting hammered for 'Not letting go' on the Jack Grealish thread ;)
I think people were just reacting as the story had developed, therefore adding new posts on here made sense. I can't see any of her subsequent Tweets but would agree that, while in the wrong on this occasion, her skin colour has fuck all to do with anything and nobody should suffer racial abuse.
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She's expressed an opinion that some of you, me included, don't agree with.
However, I do know a few guys, on a trade forum, who are, either, getting furlough, claiming grants etc and saying they want this to go one for as long as possible because they're rolling in money now.
She, probably, realises the error she's made. So maybe we should just draw a line under it and leave it now?
Slightly different situation, I know, but, Vil I an is getting hammered for 'Not letting go' on the Jack Grealish thread ;)
What so getting 80% of the money you used to get is rolling in it? I smell bullshit.
In my experience, the self-employed (of which I was recently part of) tend to wildly exaggerate their earnings depending on whose asking.
It is nonsense. My SE grant came through today. Very welcome, I must say. But if my work had carried on in the same vein that it was, I could have earned considerably more in this time.
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She's expressed an opinion that some of you, me included, don't agree with.
However, I do know a few guys, on a trade forum, who are, either, getting furlough, claiming grants etc and saying they want this to go one for as long as possible because they're rolling in money now.
She, probably, realises the error she's made. So maybe we should just draw a line under it and leave it now?
Slightly different situation, I know, but, Vil I an is getting hammered for 'Not letting go' on the Jack Grealish thread ;)
What so getting 80% of the money you used to get is rolling in it? I smell bullshit.
In my experience, the self-employed (of which I was recently part of) tend to wildly exaggerate their earnings depending on whose asking.
There is a lot of free money out there and the system is getting gamed.
Is she the rather attractive lady who was a pundit at Wimens World Cup?
How is the system getting gamed?
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I'm not sure how anyone is "gaming" the system, that's total bollocks. Employers decide on who gets furloughed, not employees.
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My self employed neighbour is claiming and is now working.
I also know 2 people that have been furloughed by their employers - one is desperate to get back to work and the other is quite happy with her circumstances.
Different people have different motivations I guess, but it was a pretty silly thing to say.
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She's expressed an opinion that some of you, me included, don't agree with.
However, I do know a few guys, on a trade forum, who are, either, getting furlough, claiming grants etc and saying they want this to go one for as long as possible because they're rolling in money now.
She, probably, realises the error she's made. So maybe we should just draw a line under it and leave it now?
Slightly different situation, I know, but, Vil I an is getting hammered for 'Not letting go' on the Jack Grealish thread ;)
What so getting 80% of the money you used to get is rolling in it? I smell bullshit.
I don’t doubt there are a few, for sure, but, many are continuing to work, cash only, in empty properties or outside jobs. Believe it or not people still want tradesmen to come and work.
My trade, now, is painting and decorating. I can’t claim a penny due to my Fire Service pension, so in that regard I’m very lucky, so I was able to postpone all my booked in work. I’ve had a few enquiries of my availability while all this is going on, so could easily have carried on
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She's expressed an opinion that some of you, me included, don't agree with.
However, I do know a few guys, on a trade forum, who are, either, getting furlough, claiming grants etc and saying they want this to go one for as long as possible because they're rolling in money now.
She, probably, realises the error she's made. So maybe we should just draw a line under it and leave it now?
Slightly different situation, I know, but, Vil I an is getting hammered for 'Not letting go' on the Jack Grealish thread ;)
What so getting 80% of the money you used to get is rolling in it? I smell bullshit.
I don’t doubt there are a few, for sure, but, many are continuing to work, cash only, in empty properties or outside jobs. Believe it or not people still want tradesmen to come and work.
My trade, now, is painting and decorating. I can’t claim a penny due to my Fire Service pension, so in that regard I’m very lucky.
Yeah, but that's not the same, that's tax evasion and fraud.
Edit: along with possibly being a public health menace.
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Surely the point isn't that some people will fiddle the system but that she made the insinuation that all people on Furlough will become lazy and entitled?
It's a common right wing trope used as an argument against the welfare state and demonstrates a thought process that thinks the very worst of people regardless of the evidence.
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She's expressed an opinion that some of you, me included, don't agree with.
However, I do know a few guys, on a trade forum, who are, either, getting furlough, claiming grants etc and saying they want this to go one for as long as possible because they're rolling in money now.
She, probably, realises the error she's made. So maybe we should just draw a line under it and leave it now?
Slightly different situation, I know, but, Vil I an is getting hammered for 'Not letting go' on the Jack Grealish thread ;)
What so getting 80% of the money you used to get is rolling in it? I smell bullshit.
I don’t doubt there are a few, for sure, but, many are continuing to work, cash only, in empty properties or outside jobs. Believe it or not people still want tradesmen to come and work.
My trade, now, is painting and decorating. I can’t claim a penny due to my Fire Service pension, so in that regard I’m very lucky.
Yeah, but that's not the same, that's tax evasion and fraud.
Edit: along with possibly being a public health menace.
Can’t disagree, mate, but, if someone is giving you money not to work and you can, more than likely, almost double your usual earnings by carrying on working for cash you’d want this pandemic to carry on.
I’m certainly not defending these guys.
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I thought her gripe wasn't furloughing itself, rather "a culture of do nothing entitlement".
Which is pretty Daily Mail.
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She's expressed an opinion that some of you, me included, don't agree with.
However, I do know a few guys, on a trade forum, who are, either, getting furlough, claiming grants etc and saying they want this to go one for as long as possible because they're rolling in money now.
She, probably, realises the error she's made. So maybe we should just draw a line under it and leave it now?
Slightly different situation, I know, but, Vil I an is getting hammered for 'Not letting go' on the Jack Grealish thread ;)
What so getting 80% of the money you used to get is rolling in it? I smell bullshit.
I don’t doubt there are a few, for sure, but, many are continuing to work, cash only, in empty properties or outside jobs. Believe it or not people still want tradesmen to come and work.
My trade, now, is painting and decorating. I can’t claim a penny due to my Fire Service pension, so in that regard I’m very lucky.
Yeah, but that's not the same, that's tax evasion and fraud.
Edit: along with possibly being a public health menace.
Can’t disagree, mate, but, if someone is giving you money not to work and you can, more than likely, almost double your usual earnings by carrying on working for cash you’d want this pandemic to carry on.
I’m certainly not defending these guys.
I'm fairly sure it goes on. Of course it does. probably as much as some Europeans who come over here to take advantage of our "relaxed benefit system". It's a very, very small amount of people.
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I know 2 people who are furloughed but still working so are effectively, doubling their income. In the same way I know a couple of people who claim benefits but work cash in hand. Neither are anything more than a minority and government policy shouldn't be designed around these cases. That said I don't think they're the people she was referring to. I think she was talking about people who are happy to take the money and sit at home doing fuck all for as long as it takes. The problem is I don't they're a majority either. I know a lot more people who were furloughed and thought it was great for a few weeks so they could do the garden, do a bit of decorating, etc but are now bored senseless and want to get back to normal with going to work being part of that.
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There is a deeply unattractive characteristic in a lot of people in this country that manifests in a sense that we're only happy to help people if the recipient is truly miserable about receiving that help.
Edit: a case in point - medical marijuana. I remember watching a tedious round of debates whereby people were postulating that it would only be acceptable if some way could be found to remove the element that gets people high. Fuck's sake.
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I know 2 people who are furloughed but still working so are effectively, doubling their income. In the same way I know a couple of people who claim benefits but work cash in hand. Neither are anything more than a minority and government policy shouldn't be designed around these cases. That said I don't think they're the people she was referring to. I think she was talking about people who are happy to take the money and sit at home doing fuck all for as long as it takes. The problem is I don't they're a majority either. I know a lot more people who were furloughed and thought it was great for a few weeks so they could do the garden, do a bit of decorating, etc but are now bored senseless and want to get back to normal with going to work being part of that.
There's absolutely nothing to stop someone who is furloughed from one job (say bar or restaurant worker) going to do another job (say being a care worker) and getting paid to do both. Good luck to them if they are.
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There is a deeply unattractive characteristic in a lot of people in this country that manifests in a sense that we're only happy to help people if the recipient is truly miserable about receiving that help.
Edit: a case in point - medical marijuana. I remember watching a tedious round of debates whereby people were postulating that it would only be acceptable if some way could be found to remove the element that gets people high. Fuck's sake.
Race to the bottom - "my life might be siht but I'm ok so long as people I think are less deserving than me are worse". That's pretty much the mantra of the vast majority of working class tories.
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I thought her gripe wasn't furloughing itself, rather "a culture of do nothing entitlement".
Which is pretty Daily Mail.
100% correct. She even said she thought furloughing was a good idea.
It was lazy, stupid thinking, blurted out on Twitter.
If she was just someone random posting this then she'd be lost in the crowd. In reality, she's a senior director at the Villa and needs to behave like one. Could you imagine Smith or Purslow coming out with this sort of thing? Of course not, they've got more sense.
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I thought her gripe wasn't furloughing itself, rather "a culture of do nothing entitlement".
Which is pretty Daily Mail.
100% correct. She even said she thought furloughing was a good idea.
It was lazy, stupid thinking, blurted out on Twitter.
If she was just someone random posting this then she'd be lost in the crowd. In reality, she's a senior director at the Villa and needs to behave like one. Could you imagine Smith or Purslow coming out with this sort of thing? Of course not, they've got more sense.
More sense not to say it out loud, or more sense not to think it in the first place?
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Well if they thought it and never said it out loud, we wouldn't know so wouldn't care.
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Perhaps someone who thinks and believes something bad but says nothing is doubly damned. As Edmund Burke said evil triumphs when good men do nothing.
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I thought her gripe wasn't furloughing itself, rather "a culture of do nothing entitlement".
Which is pretty Daily Mail.
100% correct. She even said she thought furloughing was a good idea.
It was lazy, stupid thinking, blurted out on Twitter.
If she was just someone random posting this then she'd be lost in the crowd. In reality, she's a senior director at the Villa and needs to behave like one. Could you imagine Smith or Purslow coming out with this sort of thing? Of course not, they've got more sense.
More sense not to say it out loud, or more sense not to think it in the first place?
Both. We've all got opinions, and there's bound to be someone out there who disagrees with some of them.
But it shouldn't be that hard to work out which opinions are likely to be controversial and that if you're high profile you probably oughtn't publish them on Twitter.
Her stupidity brings our club into disrepute.
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But when voicing it, I'm sure she would have been of the opinion that what she said would be well received. She's not Katie Hopkins, it's not like she'd overtly courted controversy before, and I don't think she did this time.
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I believe the reverse of that. She promotes views not because she believes in them deeply but because she craves the attention they generate. Just like Boris Johnson.
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But when voicing it, I'm sure she would have been of the opinion that what she said would be well received. She's not Katie Hopkins, it's not like she'd overtly courted controversy before, and I don't think she did this time.
If she genuinely thought that wasn't a controversial thing to say, it confirms she's too stupid to be a senior director at the Villa.
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I believe the reverse of that. She promotes views not because she believes in them deeply but because she craves the attention they generate. Just like Boris Johnson.
I thought this when she was having an argument with Martin O'Neill when they were working for the BBC during the 2018 World Cup. It seemed she was trying to take on the person she perceived to have the biggest intellect in order to prove herself superior when there was no real need to.
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I believe the reverse of that. She promotes views not because she believes in them deeply but because she craves the attention they generate. Just like Boris Johnson.
I thought this when she was having an argument with Martin O'Neill when they were working for the BBC during the 2018 World Cup. It seemed she was trying to take on the person she perceived to have the biggest intellect in order to prove herself superior when there was no real need to.
[2009] He hasn't even got a law degree. [/2009]
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I believe the reverse of that. She promotes views not because she believes in them deeply but because she craves the attention they generate. Just like Boris Johnson.
I thought this when she was having an argument with Martin O'Neill when they were working for the BBC during the 2018 World Cup. It seemed she was trying to take on the person she perceived to have the biggest intellect in order to prove herself superior when there was no real need to.
[2009] He hasn't even got a law degree. [/2009]
I thought that at the time because she has and I couldn't see what she was trying to prove.
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I believe the reverse of that. She promotes views not because she believes in them deeply but because she craves the attention they generate. Just like Boris Johnson.
I thought this when she was having an argument with Martin O'Neill when they were working for the BBC during the 2018 World Cup. It seemed she was trying to take on the person she perceived to have the biggest intellect in order to prove herself superior when there was no real need to.
[2009] He hasn't even got a law degree. [/2009]
I thought that at the time because she has and I couldn't see what she was trying to prove.
Ah, I forgot she was a barrister!
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She's a solicitor. 2015 call.
She's a Magic Circle fuck. I was on the LPC with a lad who had a training contract at Slaughter & May. Fantastic money, but a pound of flesh taken and a life swallowed.
You've got to really want to be a lawyer to work there and places like that. And only cranks actually want to do this shite.
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I used to work with those magic circle dicks. Horrible entities. Dreadful people.
I had a dalliance with a partner once. False boobs and a penchant for Class As. Quite the evening.
Trevor, they called him.
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Whenever I have been on courses with people from Magic Circle firms they have generally been as thick as two short planks but good at BS.
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On the occasions I have employed a barrister I have always finished up wishing I had eaten my own head.
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One whom I employed at a grand an hour (1970s rates) turned up half an hour late for the hearing and did not know my name. Lawyers. I have shit em.
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As I have said on another thread, a top silk in full flow is a thing of beauty. But there are definitely some real duffers as well.
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Trouble is they all think, and charge, like the former category. The two most famous ones I ever knew should have been in the theatre not the law.
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Trouble is they all think, and charge, like the former category. The two most famous ones I ever knew should have been in the theatre not the law.
It’s a problem with so called professionals, people think that because someone is a Solicitor Doctor or whatever, they know what they are doing.
Most of them do not, I have dealt with some really shit lawyers and thankfully some very good ones.
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When I did my accountancy exams the past mark for all bar one was 50%. The final exam upped the benchmark considerably - to 55%! You could qualify even if you chose to ignore entire sections of syllabus!
My bean-counting buddies and I used to say that we hoped medical school exams weren't run on the same basis.
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Architecture is the same. I would not trust many of them to draw a bucket of water.
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I'm happy to say that we graduate members of the Guild of Amateur Radiator Appreciation and Maintenance Soviet are held to very high standards indeed.
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So have we had an confirmation whether she still works for the club or not? TBH, I'm not fussed either way although the club might want to talk to her about her social media at a minimum.
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So have we had an confirmation whether she still works for the club or not? TBH, I'm not fussed either way although the club might want to talk to her about her social media at a minimum.
Looks like she does, she's been posing with all the new signings.
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Should this be "stickied" and the Women removed from the stiffs thread?
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Signing plenty at the moment.
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Trouble is they all think, and charge, like the former category. The two most famous ones I ever knew should have been in the theatre not the law.
It’s a problem with so called professionals, people think that because someone is a Solicitor Doctor or whatever, they know what they are doing.
Most of them do not, I have dealt with some really shit lawyers and thankfully some very good ones.
Hopefully the good ones were on your side and the shit ones opposing.
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Should this be "stickied" and the Women removed from the stiffs thread?
No. Forty odd thousand turn up for the men's matches. So there's far more interest in it. The U23 and Women have a valuable role to play but there really isn't as much time and interest invested. When the interest increases then perhaps?
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We could have a separate women's thread. We get threads for plenty less deserving causes, pretty sure Danny Drinkwater had one.
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I vote for the women having their own stickied thread. They are in the top league in England in a world game for women.
They are not academy players or reserve players.
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Me too. Plus the stickied thread that they are part of is out of date, should be 2020/21 season now...
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20/21
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Ermmm... yes. That's what I said. 🤥
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I vote for the women having their own stickied thread. They are in the top league in England in a world game for women.
They are not academy players or reserve players.
I'd vote no. I have no interest in the women's team or the women's game and another sticky topic just clogs the board up.
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I vote for the women having their own stickied thread. They are in the top league in England in a world game for women.
They are not academy players or reserve players.
I'd vote no. I have no interest in the women's team or the women's game and another sticky topic just clogs the board up.
Or it stops you looking at womens stuff when you think it might be the u23's!
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Been in a bit of bother in Barbados. It seems from the article she does still work for us, I wasn't sure since her Twitter comments earlier in the year.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/bbc-pundit-eni-aluko-cries-22498291
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Honestly, she's a fucking liability. A director of Aston Villa shouldn't be making headlines for all the wrong reasons repeatedly.
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She definitely does, she has been involved in a number of our new signings. At least in publicity photos and so on, not sure how much she does behind the scenes though I think she may have helped sway the ex-Chelsea England International defender.
Having criticised her earlier, I'll say I don't think the latest controversy is necessarily her fault, nor anything to get too worked up about. Just a genuine misunderstanding.
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Honestly, she's a fucking liability. A director of Aston Villa shouldn't be making headlines for all the wrong reasons repeatedly.
This seems to be the case.
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She definitely does, she has been involved in a number of our new signings. At least in publicity photos and so on, not sure how much she does behind the scenes though I think she may have helped sway the ex-Chelsea England International defender.
Having criticised her earlier, I'll say I don't think the latest controversy is necessarily her fault, nor anything to get too worked up about.
Isn't it? She chose to do it. The guidelines are pretty clear.
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She definitely does, she has been involved in a number of our new signings. At least in publicity photos and so on, not sure how much she does behind the scenes though I think she may have helped sway the ex-Chelsea England International defender.
Having criticised her earlier, I'll say I don't think the latest controversy is necessarily her fault, nor anything to get too worked up about.
Well if you are no longer worked up by Cummings indiscretion, then not anything to get worked up over. Personally she left the hotel after having a test but not getting the results. If she had been positive she could have spread it. The only difference is she appears to be truly sorry where Cummings doesn't have human feelings.
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I don't know the Bajan guidelines but it seems that they weren't clear. Even if they were, she is human and made a mistake. This seems different to people with a don't give a fuck attitude knowingly breaking rules.
That's my impression of what happened, anyway. It may be she is entirely guilty and I am just too trusting in this case.
Edit: very different to Cummings, who you would expect to know the rules inside out as an politician responsible for their implementation and who knowingly broke said rules because he considered himself more important than the law.
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She's a fucking moron. Of course she knew the rules. Horrendous person.
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She definitely does, she has been involved in a number of our new signings. At least in publicity photos and so on, not sure how much she does behind the scenes though I think she may have helped sway the ex-Chelsea England International defender.
Having criticised her earlier, I'll say I don't think the latest controversy is necessarily her fault, nor anything to get too worked up about.
Well if you are no longer worked up by Cummings indiscretion, then not anything to get worked up over. Personally she left the hotel after having a test but not getting the results. If she had been positive she could have spread it. The only difference is she appears to be truly sorry where Cummings doesn't have human feelings.
She appears to be sorry but then say it was the hotel's fault for letting her leave, not hers. I had sympathy for her until that point. That makes it seem like another of those "I'm truly sorry for my actions and hold my hands up (but........ so it's not really my fault, don't blame me)" type apologies that celebrities seem to adopt these days.
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I don't expect you or me to know it as we aren't holidaying there at the moment. However in this day and age, I would expect anyone travelling to a different country to be au fait with the local Covid Rules.
30 seconds and I have found the Gov.uk Advice is:-
To be considered for fast-track processing upon arrival, you’re advised to arrive in Barbados with a COVID-19 negative PCR test result
If you arrive in Barbados without a negative PCR test for COVID-19 that meets Barbados’ entry requirements, you will be subjected to a mandatory test on arrival. You will need to quarantine until the test results are provided. This can take up to 48 hours. If at all possible, you are strongly advised to arrive in Barbados with a COVID-19 negative PCR test
So it says stay in the Hotel until results are provided. The next line states could be 48 hours which is obviously what she thought was the time she had to wait. As she has accepted the punishment and the wrong doing I accept she isn't on the level of Cummings.
However it seems with this and the other indiscretion, she definitely seems to have the brains of a pro footballer.
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Well, my instinct is that she has probably made a mistake rather than deliberately acted the twat like Cummings.
I don't really know for sure, though, that was just a first impression based on skim reading about it on the BBC.
It isn't a hill I can be arsed to die on, I'll be honest.
She does think Brentford are bottlers, though, so she's right about that at least.
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I doubt she did it deliberately, it doesn't alter that you'd have to be a right dumbass to go abroad and not know 100% the regulations currently in place.
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Personally speaking, i think anyone travelling halfway around the world on holidays at this time is monumentally selfish, regardless of whether they fully adhere to the rules or not.
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She does seem to be very unlucky with understanding rules, being misquoted and the like. Still, she cries a lot so I guess she's good at something.
I get the impression she's not a very nice person.
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She's a fucking moron. Of course she knew the rules. Horrendous person.
I’m leaning towards this viewpoint.
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She does seem to be very unlucky with understanding rules, being misquoted and the like. Still, she cries a lot so I guess she's good at something.
I get the impression she's not a very nice person.
This for me too.
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And me. A nasty piece of work.
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She's a fucking moron. Of course she knew the rules. Horrendous person.
She chose to go to Barbados because she considered the rules to be more "relaxed" she knew exactly what she was doing, she got caught and cries that it's everyone else's fault.
Seems a truly unpleasant person.
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She’s a c**t.
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Somebody certainly is.
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She’s a c**t.
I knew something was missing from your bag of tricks, just couldn't put my finger on it.
Casual misogyny, that's the one.
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Somebody certainly is.
A bit less of that please.
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She’s a c**t.
I knew something was missing from your bag of tricks, just couldn't put my finger on it.
Casual misogyny, that's the one.
I doubt it's casual. Sweatily pathetic would be my guess.
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Somebody certainly is.
A bit less of that please.
Apologies to the site and its rules.
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She’s a c**t.
I knew something was missing from your bag of tricks, just couldn't put my finger on it.
Casual misogyny, that's the one.
I doubt it's casual. Sweatily pathetic would be my guess.
I've told you once.
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Please check out the site rules.
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Here: https://www.heroesandvillains.info/forumv3/index.php?page=page4597
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I've already apologised.
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Yes. Just seen it. Bit of cross-posting there. Thank you. PM on way.
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Here: https://www.heroesandvillains.info/forumv3/index.php?page=page4597
"Spamming, flooding, trolling and flaming will not be tolerated."
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Here: https://www.heroesandvillains.info/forumv3/index.php?page=page4597
"Spamming, flooding, trolling and flaming will not be tolerated."
Disagreeing is not trolling.
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No, but this "new" poster's entire posting style is. Witness the facemask nonsense for an example.
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No, but this "new" poster's entire posting style is. Witness the facemask nonsense for an example.
As I said, disagreeing is not trolling.
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You're backing the wrong, previously banned, horse here.
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You're backing the wrong, previously banned, horse here.
I'll have £3000 on it.
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You're backing the wrong, previously banned, horse here.
Thank you for your advice on how to moderate this site.
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I think the moderating team, broadly, share my opinion of this "new" poster.
For some reason you, and you alone, seem keen to stick up for the bigoted, misogynist, previously banned troll. I know you aren't any of these things so I was confused as to why.
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This is not the place to discuss moderation of the site.
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OK.
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Over the next decade , in these next 10 years to 2030 the woman's game in UK and England will be way more prominent and by 2040 to latest 2050 probably will be as of equal interest to men's football at top level league .
It's the same game and glad to see Aston villa women top league and going places and the investment is clearly there.
So when it does take off in the major way - I have no doubt it won't. But perhaps those who follow men's may join in but even if not the woman's sports will have plenty of their own followers of Aston villa women as society and support evolves.
Unfortunately covid 19 ruined summer championship here in England but hopefully next year the buzz will be created when the euros are on for the international teams and England nation team
Eventually it will be as everywhere as men's football and rightly so - up the villa !!
thanks for explaining what a decade is and when the current one will end 😉
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thanks for explaining what a decade is and when the current one will end 😉
Not as redundant as you might think as some people think the "current" i.e. the next decade ends on 31/12/2019. ;)
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Back to the future-style?
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Quote: Twitter.
Genuine question: if the average price of a PL ticket live is £30+ why is the Pay per view price of £14.50 watching the same product on the pitch seen as an outrageous final straw??
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She's just a dumb fucking Tory.
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By her logic a sky sports subscription should be about £500 a month.
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She really is pretty fucking stupid.
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So she hasn’t given up Twitter then .
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Why is this embarrassment still employed here?
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To be fair to her, she went on to engage with people who said that in these uncertain times financially it was ill judged. Also asking what people thought was a fair price.
The club voted in favour of this, she's not going start slating the decision. She may have been better advised to keep her thoughts to herself.
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To be fair to her, she went on to engage with people who said that in these uncertain times financially it was ill judged. Also asking what people thought was a fair price.
The club voted in favour of this, she's not going start slating the decision. She may have been better advised to keep her thoughts to herself.
This is the thing.
Every time she says something dumb it's her choice. She could just keep her mouth shut and not alienate a huge part of the fanbase. And as a director of the club, that should be her priority, not firing off whatever simple thought first comes to mind.
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I genuinely saw this quote today, I don't know who it's from but i think it's appropriate for the situation.
"A smart person knows what to say, a wise person knows whether to say it."
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She makes Mark Draper look like Einstein.
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She makes Mark Draper look like Einstein.
To be fair, who doesn’t want to play for a top Italian side like Barcelona?
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https://youtu.be/PGWCIzfiGgs
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It's a brave member of the Villa hierarchy who'd try to sack her.
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Well so far we've played 3, lost 3, so just like Suso paid the price for an underperforming men's team, she should pay the price if the women's team continues to underperform.
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She's been at the club less than 9 months and most of this thread is probably the bad publicity she generates.
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Article by her in the Guardian
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/dec/31/aston-villa-my-crazy-challenging-first-year-has-ended-on-a-high
My crazy, challenging first year at Aston Villa has ended on a high
Making the statement signing of Mana Iwabuchi was a proud moment as sporting director and I am excited about 2021
winner. This was a statement signing for a club in our first season in the WSL, the culmination of a process I’d been working on since the summer, and the moment the deal was concluded has to go down as a highlight of my short career so far as a sporting director.
Villa’s head coach Gemma Davies and I share an admiration and respect for Japanese women’s football and its players past and present. I was fortunate to benefit from the footballing artistry of Japanese legends when playing with Aya Miyama at St Louis Athletica in the USA and Yuki Nagasato during my time at Chelsea, players who, like Mana, displayed the precision and grace that are part of the DNA of Japanese women’s football.
We first tried to sign Mana before the Tokyo Olympics were postponed and she chose to stay in Japan. We never gave up, though, and – having worked with Mana’s European agent during my playing career – when the opportunity came up again to have a conversation about bringing her over, I was at the front of the queue.
I knew we would be competing with other top clubs, but Gemma and I were able to deliver a Microsoft Teams presentation to Mana about our long-term ambitions, our playing and training environment, and how she would fit into our team. Fortunately that was a great conversation, and then it was about trying to construct a deal. This time I presented to Christian Purslow, our CEO, about the benefits of signing Mana, both on and off the pitch; not only will she improve our side, she will also boost our profile in women’s football, and in Japan. Constructing a unique deal with our CEO is something I’m really proud of. It feels like a great way to end what has been a crazy year transitioning from the pitch to life on the other side of the white lines.
This time last year I had just left Juventus, and I announced my retirement in January before being appointed by Villa later that month. The team were unbeaten, looking all but promoted, and starting to plan for potential life in the WSL with lots of player recruitment decisions already made. Then my first week in the job coincided with the beginning of a global pandemic, which brought challenges I could never have foreseen, including game and league cancellations, Covid testing and establishing bubbles.
I was confident in my ability to do this job, because I’ve played the game at the highest level, I’ve qualified and worked as a lawyer, I have developed my own personal commercial profile, and I’d studied through Uefa for a master’s in sporting directorship. I felt ready to make the jump, but to transition so quickly from being a full-time professional footballer to working in football administration during a global pandemic has been a challenge.
In many ways, even without the pandemic it was a tricky time to arrive – the team were successful and there was a massive high in the group, so I came into an established culture that I wanted to try to shape moving forward. The season was cancelled – submitting a letter to the FA in support of our promotion was nerve-racking to say the least – but thankfully the hard work of the players and staff was deservedly rewarded. My message then was that what it took to get us promoted might not enable us to be successful in the WSL, the most competitive women’s league in the world.
Naturally people in successful environments sometimes resist change, and it was inevitable that not everyone would welcome a high-profile former footballer coming in and talking about improvements, but a sporting director has to be objective, to drive standards and have the courage to have new ideas.
I have had to get used to a different way of working to the one I was used to. There’s a special atmosphere in a successful football team, created by everyone working together and sharing in their achievements. As a striker it used to be my job to score goals, but even if I did not get on the scoresheet, we celebrated together if the team won. There was no disguising where individual credit lay – it’s perfectly obvious who has scored, or assisted, or made saves, tackles or good runs – but the priority is collective success.
In football administration, and probably most corporate jobs, the lines are more blurred and people demonstrate their ambition in different ways. It can be harder to know where responsibility lies, and I have found it tricky and sometimes isolating to get accustomed to that side of my new working life. It took me a little while to accept that the on-pitch bonds with teammates, forged from winning trophies and creating timeless memories, are almost impossible to replicate off the pitch.
Having won promotion Villa Women haven’t had the best start, and we sit 11th in a 12-team league, so our work of trying to secure points, developing as a group, building the brand, continues. Though they are a bigger club, the fact that Manchester United, in their second season in the WSL, are top shows us that we don’t have to limit our ambitions. I have to look two or three years ahead, set realistic goals and work with the multi-disciplinary team behind the team to develop the environment we need to achieve.
I am excited about the year to come, continuing to develop and learn as a sporting director and as a person, while also continuing the punditry work that keeps my mind sharp – I can analyse Premier League games, players and managers and use that knowledge to assist our technical coaching team.
I am hungry to keep learning and plan to start a course with football finance modules in the new year. I have been listening to a lot of podcasts on leadership, reading up on other sporting directors and managers and learning how other people have transitioned from successful playing careers into other roles within the game. I am excited continue along the journey we are on as a group, and I am convinced that Aston Villa Women are on the right track for 2021.
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Fair play to her.
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Is she still a director of our football club?
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She played for them for 10 years. If Gazbaz was a coach at Albion and said something good about Villa would that be ok. What about JT if he was pleased that Chelsea won tonight.
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She's a director. Purslow was managing director at Chelsea but he's not currently publicly creaming over them making the Champions League final because he's got some common sense.
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What a prize pillock she really is.
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What a prize pillock she really is.
She's only saying what JT is thinking !
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Really. 2 years at 'The Mighty Reds YNWA', 3 at Chelsea and a long career outside football as opposed to half your working life in football for one club
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"Incredible, inspiring". Those adjectives might be apt if a team of amateurs from Lithuania or the Faroe Islands made the final. The wealthiest club from the wealthiest city in the continent? I'd say it's slightly less incredible and inspiring, at the risk of spoiling everyone's oil-soaked party.
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Needs to concentrate on the women's team at the present moment
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She played for them for 10 years. If Gazbaz was a coach at Albion and said something good about Villa would that be ok. What about JT if he was pleased that Chelsea won tonight.
Your wish......
https://www.instagram.com/p/COgYMlIno6O/
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No idea what it says but can guess.
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It's a picture of Mason Mount as a wee nibs I think in a Chelsea kit aged 6 or 7 and simply saying congratulations.
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It's a picture of Mason Mount as a wee nibs I think in a Chelsea kit aged 6 or 7 and simply saying congratulations.
Mason Mount looks exactly the same as a 6 year old as he does now.
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Apparently she may be off to go and work for the FA. Good riddance because she did FA for our reputation.
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Indeed. She's been nothing short of a PR disaster every time she's opened the Twitter app on her phone. Let the FA have that problem.
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She can go and be some other employer’s problem, for sure.
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Tara a bit you Tory bellend.
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I don’t think she’ll be missed that much!
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From the Times this morning:
Aston Villa Sporting Director Eni Aluko is understood to be joining new Los Angeles-based franchise Angel City.
Aluko, 34, has been at Aston Villa for 16 months, overseeing a number of new signings as the team transformed to a professional outfit in their first season in the Women’s Super League, securing survival in the division last weekend, three points clear of relegated Bristol City.
Sources have suggested to The Times that her next move will be to Angel City, a club that is viewed as one of the most exciting developments in the women’s game. A number of high-profile owners have backed the club including film stars Natalie Portman and Eva Longoria as well as former USA star Mia Hamm. The move would be an attractive prospect with Aluko having a key influence in shaping the club, using her vast experience in the women’s game.
The club are expected to begin competing in the NWSL, America’s professional top flight, at the start of the 2022 season, which would give Aluko time to have an influence on the setup.
Aluko was one of England’s most successful ever players, with 102 England caps. Her club career also saw her experience life in the America, where she played for a number of clubs from 2009-2012.
It is likely she will leave Aston Villa following a week in which both of their head coaches have departed. Marcus Bignot, who joined the club on a temporary basis to steer the club to survival in January, left on Monday. Bignot and Aluko have a close relationship from her playing days.
Bignot replaced Gemma Davies as manager, who had initially secured promotion to the WSL last summer. Davies remained in her role as head coach but was also informed she would be leaving the club on Monday.
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Even better, nothing to do with English football at all.
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I know she's pretty detestable, but from purely from a point of view of getting the women's team established, I guess you can say she and her people have done the job. I'm just glad the club seem to think they can get a better management team in place now to move things forward. I really can see with investment them making very quick strides forward quite quickly.
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She did do her job and you could argue she did it well. However it is lucky she didn't leave a trail of destruction with our name in the mud while doing so.
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Good job that Dean did not vote Conservative 😃we know he does!!!
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If I can offer some balance to the comments, Eniola Aluko was the driving force behind the "Students of the Game" partnership with Aston University which will benefit our women's team members even after their careers have ended.
Also, please enlighten me, what business of ours is her political views and in what way is it relevant to her role within the club?
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If I can offer some balance to the comments, Eniola Aluko was the driving force behind the "Students of the Game" partnership with Aston University which will benefit our women's team members even after their careers have ended.
Also, please enlighten me, what business of ours is her political views and in what way is it relevant to her role within the club?
It’s more her habit of spouting questionable views on social media rather than who she votes for.
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I know she's pretty detestable, but from purely from a point of view of getting the women's team established, I guess you can say she and her people have done the job. I'm just glad the club seem to think they can get a better management team in place now to move things forward. I really can see with investment them making very quick strides forward quite quickly.
The women's team has come on in leaps and bounds, and it's a credit to NSWE. It shows they're determined to to build up the whole club, not just interested in the first team like Xia and Lerner (at least originally) were. Aluko obviously played a part, but her habit of opening her mouth before engaging her brain brought her into disrepute far too many times
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Villa have stayed in the WSL this season, so I thank Eni very much for that and for the recruitment that helped, with her coaching team who are leaving as well.
Good luck with the new opportunity in LA.
I hope our Villa Women’s team go from strength to strength in the next season.
Please, NSWE, get someone really good to manage and coach, because they deserve the very best after this year and they are brilliant!
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Good to see her affinity for the club hasn't waned!
On ITV now saying that Foden "has to start" for England in the Euros and that Jack is too similar to him to be in the same team.
Foden's not good enough to polish Jack's boots you absolute dope!
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Good to see her affinity for the club hasn't waned!
On ITV now saying that Foden "has to start" for England in the Euros and that Jack is too similar to him to be in the same team.
Foden's not good enough to polish Jack's boots you absolute dope!
thick as a brick
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Good to see her affinity for the club hasn't waned!
On ITV now saying that Foden "has to start" for England in the Euros and that Jack is too similar to him to be in the same team.
Foden's not good enough to polish Jack's boots you absolute dope!
Foden is a brilliant player, as is Jack. They’re not actually similar and should both start.
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Good to see her affinity for the club hasn't waned!
On ITV now saying that Foden "has to start" for England in the Euros and that Jack is too similar to him to be in the same team.
Foden's not good enough to polish Jack's boots you absolute dope!
If anyone thinks Grealish and Foden are too similar then they either don't watch much football or they're fucking stupid Foden plays with someone much more similar to Grealish (in KDB) and they compliment each other perfectly.
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Villa have stayed in the WSL this season, so I thank Eni very much for that and for the recruitment that helped, with her coaching team who are leaving as well.
Good luck with the new opportunity in LA.
I hope our Villa Women’s team go from strength to strength in the next season.
Please, NSWE, get someone really good to manage and coach, because they deserve the very best after this year and they are brilliant!
+1 :)
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Wonder have Jack and Aluko ever met and if there's much bonding between the male and female seniors.
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Good to see her affinity for the club hasn't waned!
On ITV now saying that Foden "has to start" for England in the Euros and that Jack is too similar to him to be in the same team.
Foden's not good enough to polish Jack's boots you absolute dope!
If anyone thinks Grealish and Foden are too similar then they either don't watch much football or they're fucking stupid Foden plays with someone much more similar to Grealish (in KDB) and they compliment each other perfectly.
I agree, but I think the problem is Southgate is so invested in Mount playing 10. You could certainly have Jack & Foden as the two wide players, but then we would lack the pure pace of players who run behind, which is something I think Southgate wants and the likes of Sancho & Sterling offer. My team would certainly have Jack and Foden in one way or another. But I think Mount is nailed so it could well be that Southgate will feel it has to be one or the other.
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Mount has earned his place. Anyway, to the Euros thread, it's taking over the whole site!
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We’re getting a “track record” now according to her on Twitter.
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How do you mean?
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How do you mean?
Apologies, should have put the link....
https://twitter.com/enialu/status/1402272219472990216?s=21
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She really is a twat.
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I’m blocked, what did she say?
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I’m blocked, what did she say?
She implied Villa fans are racist.
She's a fucking moron and I can't believe we employed her for as long as we did.
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I’m blocked, what did she say?
She implied Villa fans are racist.
She's a fucking moron and I can't believe we employed her for as long as we did.
Thank god she got a different job of her own free will.
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Horrible, horrible person.
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Her and Jonny Gould have done more damage to our reputation than Paul Lambert.
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Her and Jonny Gould have done more damage to our reputation than Paul Lambert.
What's he been saying Dave?
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If Villa fans are racist,why did she stay at the club so long, hopefully the owners will contact her and ask for details
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Her and Jonny Gould have done more damage to our reputation than Paul Lambert.
They shouldn’t even be mentioned in the same breath to be honest. One was a dour, limited manager, who just wasn’t good enough. The other two are horrendous rent-a-quote types, who don’t care if they drag the club’s name through the mud as long as they expand their Twitter influence.
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Her and Jonny Gould have done more damage to our reputation than Paul Lambert.
What's he been saying Dave?
Basically if you don't agree with him you're anti-semitic.
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How on earth does she keep getting jobs? She should come with a health warning. Absolute horror show.
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Her and Jonny Gould have done more damage to our reputation than Paul Lambert.
What's he been saying Dave?
Basically if you don't agree with him you're anti-semitic.
That, with added Villa fans are racist because above.
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Her and Jonny Gould have done more damage to our reputation than Paul Lambert.
I'd imagine very few non-Villa fans knew or cared that she was employed by us, and the vast majority of those that did will have been unaware of any of her controversial comments since taking up the post. Even fewer will have ever heard of this rent-a-quote dickhead from the Trust.
They're absolute arseholes and I'm glad they're no longer associated with the club in an official capacity. However, I doubt they've made a blind bit of difference to our reputation. They probably don't even have a topic each on SHA or Molineux Mix.
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I’m blocked, what did she say?
She implied Villa fans are racist.
She's a fucking moron and I can't believe we employed her for as long as we did.
Thank god she got a different job of her own free will.
The way she's behaved both during her time with us and since she left it wouldn't surprise me if our owners showed her where the door was.
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If Villa fans are racist,why did she stay at the club so long, hopefully the owners will contact her and ask for details
We may have paid her far too much money.
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Reading her tweets,she comes over as a narcissistic dolt.
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Her and Jonny Gould have done more damage to our reputation than Paul Lambert.
I'd imagine very few non-Villa fans knew or cared that she was employed by us, and the vast majority of those that did will have been unaware of any of her controversial comments since taking up the post. Even fewer will have ever heard of this rent-a-quote dickhead from the Trust.
They're absolute arseholes and I'm glad they're no longer associated with the club in an official capacity. However, I doubt they've made a blind bit of difference to our reputation. They probably don't even have a topic each on SHA or Molineux Mix.
I hope you're right, but as I said last week about Jonny Gould, it seems that every time racism in football is mentioned we get included in the problem clubs.
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Well it doesn't help when we have 12yo fans racially abusing black opposition players on Twitter before a game. But we are probably not alone in that but it bigger news then a Hartlepool fan doing it.
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Her and Jonny Gould have done more damage to our reputation than Paul Lambert.
I'd imagine very few non-Villa fans knew or cared that she was employed by us, and the vast majority of those that did will have been unaware of any of her controversial comments since taking up the post. Even fewer will have ever heard of this rent-a-quote dickhead from the Trust.
They're absolute arseholes and I'm glad they're no longer associated with the club in an official capacity. However, I doubt they've made a blind bit of difference to our reputation. They probably don't even have a topic each on SHA or Molineux Mix.
I hope you're right, but as I said last week about Jonny Gould, it seems that every time racism in football is mentioned we get included in the problem clubs.
I'd imagine some of the abuse subjected to Zaha last season and the booing by some idiots has brought unwanted spotlight on us. Villa v Chelsea was one of few games since fans were allowed back that actually had something riding on it so would have had more focus on it, perhaps?
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Her and Jonny Gould have done more damage to our reputation than Paul Lambert.
I'd imagine very few non-Villa fans knew or cared that she was employed by us, and the vast majority of those that did will have been unaware of any of her controversial comments since taking up the post. Even fewer will have ever heard of this rent-a-quote dickhead from the Trust.
They're absolute arseholes and I'm glad they're no longer associated with the club in an official capacity. However, I doubt they've made a blind bit of difference to our reputation. They probably don't even have a topic each on SHA or Molineux Mix.
I hope you're right, but as I said last week about Jonny Gould, it seems that every time racism in football is mentioned we get included in the problem clubs.
I'd imagine some of the abuse subjected to Zaha last season and the booing by some idiots has brought unwanted spotlight on us. Villa v Chelsea was one of few games since fans were allowed back that actually had something riding on it so would have had more focus on it, perhaps?
It's been going on for years. There was some shock, horror story before the 1998 World Cup that mentioned our right-wing hooligans.
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What good does it do to ignore issues with (however small) a section of our support that create problems? Yes, Gould and Aluko are idiots, but it's undeniable that there are issues that need to be addressed.
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Yeah, agreed. We are hardly Millwall/Leeds/Chelsea/"Rangers" levels but no point pretending that we don't have any twats following us when we obviously do.
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You only need to look at Twitter and Facebook to see we have a small contingent of total knuckle dragging morons.
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The problem is across all of society, I'm not comfortable at all calling this or that set of supporters 'racist', every club is in a glass house when you start throwing those stones.
All Leeds fans are bellends though.
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I doubt whatever this woman has said will have had any effect on Villas reputation. I had never heard of her before she arrived, and wouldn't have known she had left had this thread not been here. Have no idea what she has said that is controversial either.
I doubt that many people that don't follow Villa will be aware of it, or even many that do.
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The problem is across all of society, I'm not comfortable at all calling this or that set of supporters 'racist', every club is in a glass house when you start throwing those stones.
All Leeds fans are bellends though.
Yep on both counts.
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What good does it do to ignore issues with (however small) a section of our support that create problems? Yes, Gould and Aluko are idiots, but it's undeniable that there are issues that need to be addressed.
Of course there are, but they're not restricted to the Villa, yet someone who was up until very recently a senior director at the Villa singled us out as "developing a bit of a track record".
She's an absolute gobshite.
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The problem is across all of society, I'm not comfortable at all calling this or that set of supporters 'racist', every club is in a glass house when you start throwing those stones.
All Leeds fans are bellends though.
They are, but I can say that as one of my friends is a Leeds fan.
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Yeah, agreed. We are hardly Millwall/Leeds/Chelsea/"Rangers" levels but no point pretending that we don't have any twats following us when we obviously do.
All clubs do. All.
As I have said before we have our fair share - compared to the Noses % wise we have far fewer but still far too many.
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Yeah, agreed. We are hardly Millwall/Leeds/Chelsea/"Rangers" levels but no point pretending that we don't have any twats following us when we obviously do.
All clubs do. All.
As I have said before we have our fair share - compared to the Noses % wise we have far fewer but still far too many.
The problem in this regard is that lots of the people you describe as twats (and I largely agree regarding their behaviour at football matches) on their side are black, while on our side are white and heavily invested in the politics of it all as well.
The white ones at the Blues are a bit less vocal due to the company they keep.
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Seems to have landed on her feet again. https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/60593513
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Seems to have landed on her feet again. https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/60593513
As long as her feet are 6,000 miles away from Villa Park she can fall wherever she likes.
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Pity she had not smarmed her way into running the St Petersburg Ice Queens.
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Start the clock. She'll be back in the UK after some kind of bust up in no time.
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Start the clock. She'll be back in the UK after some kind of bust up in no time.
And you can guarantee it won't be her fault.
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I suppose it depends on "hatred", but as she was the same person who was tweeting out and rubbishing people on benefits during the pandemic, was that some of the hatred she meant?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-68380445
Although the twats like the person interviewed further down who sent her abuse on the back of Barton's comments should be named and shamed, not protected. She might be a crap pundit, but being a woman or being black is no reason to abuse her. Especially when we have plenty of other crap white male pundits in the business.
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She's right, Twitter is an absolute cesspit.
Personally, I think she's a pretty poor pundit and I'm not sure why the TV companies continue to hire her, but that doesn't justify the abuse towards her which has got to ridiculous levels.
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She's right, Twitter is an absolute cesspit.
Personally, I think she's a pretty poor pundit and I'm not sure why the TV companies continue to hire her, but that doesn't justify the abuse towards her which has got to ridiculous levels.
Agree completely.
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Start the clock. She'll be back in the UK after some kind of bust up in no time.
Oh, and didn't something like that happen? Although framed slightly differently.
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Start the clock. She'll be back in the UK after some kind of bust up in no time.
Oh, and didn't something like that happen? Although framed slightly differently.
Yes.
She & the manager had disagreements about the way the team was forming, basically because they were losing more than they were winning. Eventually, she quit her role because she didn't want the friction between the two to be an issue for the team. It's all in a documentary about the forming of the club on Sky docs (I think) & tbh, in that documentary, she came across as pretty knowledgable, but very ambitious. She was frustrated that a startup team wasn't winning more.
I had missed all of this thread & was completely oblivious to the issues she created while at Villa & wondered why there was so much animosity towards her when I mentioned her in a positive light in the 'Barton being a twat' thread. But after reading the whole thread, I can certainly understand some of the negative opinions of her now.
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It is probably another thread to be chucked into other football now.
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On ITV4's coverage of Chelsea v Leeds should any of her fans want to catch her.