Let’s Look At The Positives.

[kippaxvilla2]

One point from safety.  And still only three points behind Southampton.

Norwich are seven points from safety so that’s one place almost certain.

Watford could be in the same situation by this time on Saturday night a very difficult position for them.

We’ve still got Watford, palace, at home.  As well as Bournemouth, Wet Spam and Southampton still to play.

Up the effin Villa.

[ChicagoLion]

At straws clutching

[Toronto Villa]

The positives are all of those things. We have money. We will spend it. Those teams above us are only a few points away and won't all sustain their recent good form. We will hopefully bounce back once new players come in and the manager will be forced to incorporate them. Like a new striker or two which I feel means Kodjia will be sold. Hopefully Mings gets back to the player we know he can be not the error ridden one we saw before his injury.

[kippaxvilla2]

We’ve got more points and only two less goals than the whole of the last season in the PL.

[itmustbe_it is!]

The positives are all of those things. We have money. We will spend it. Those teams above us are only a few points away and won't all sustain their recent good form. We will hopefully bounce back once new players come in and the manager will be forced to incorporate them. Like a new striker or two which I feel means Kodjia will be sold. Hopefully Mings gets back to the player we know he can be not the error ridden one we saw before his injury.

Why do you say he'll be "forced" to accommodate them like it will be a problem for him? That's daft

[olaftab]

At straws clutching

No I don't think so.

[Scovilla]

A well needed thread to cheer us up. One positive for me is the january window when things can be fixed.
Also hope some other teams will have bad spells too.
UTV.

[Legion]

Heaton, Grealish, we're not 19th or 20th, a chance to strengthen in January, not too far away from 17th and safety...

[Toronto Villa]

The positives are all of those things. We have money. We will spend it. Those teams above us are only a few points away and won't all sustain their recent good form. We will hopefully bounce back once new players come in and the manager will be forced to incorporate them. Like a new striker or two which I feel means Kodjia will be sold. Hopefully Mings gets back to the player we know he can be not the error ridden one we saw before his injury.

Why do you say he'll be "forced" to accommodate them like it will be a problem for him? That's daft

We spent 140m in the summer and the players he had a hand in buying aren't performning to the standards expected. Much is on the manager. Now the club will trust him with a bunch more to keep us up so there will be an expectation  that if we bring players in at a premium as often is in January theat there will be some level of obligation to play them. This for a manager that hasn't proved himself to be the most flexible especially in the forward position where you would think we will invest. So it's not daft to suggest there will some influence asserted on him to play new players.

[villa `cross the mersey]

Our owners use their astute financial acumen and brains and realise Smith isn't a manager for the league we are in - demote him and recruit a first class manager early January - he in turn brings in 5/6 players with Premier League experience (outright purchase and loans)-  this includes a decent striker, midfield enforcer, creative midfielder, winger  and and two full backs
Realistic ? Not a chance !!
 - But it's amazing  what appears achievable after a couple of bottles of dry white wine and a few large Metaxa 7 Star
UTV

[itmustbe_it is!]

The positives are all of those things. We have money. We will spend it. Those teams above us are only a few points away and won't all sustain their recent good form. We will hopefully bounce back once new players come in and the manager will be forced to incorporate them. Like a new striker or two which I feel means Kodjia will be sold. Hopefully Mings gets back to the player we know he can be not the error ridden one we saw before his injury.

Why do you say he'll be "forced" to accommodate them like it will be a problem for him? That's daft

We spent 140m in the summer and the players he had a hand in buying aren't performning to the standards expected. Much is on the manager. Now the club will trust him with a bunch more to keep us up so there will be an expectation  that if we bring players in at a premium as often is in January theat there will be some level of obligation to play them. This for a manager that hasn't proved himself to be the most flexible especially in the forward position where you would think we will invest. So it's not daft to suggest there will some influence asserted on him to play new players.

My point was that you seemed to suggest that he would have to be "forced" to play the players he, presumably, will have a hand in signing once again. Why would he not want to? In the forward position he has no alternative at the moment, that's not inflexibility that's necessity. And don't say Kodjia, for Christ's sake.

[Toronto Villa]

The last we saw if Kodjia he took a breakaway goal really well and scored in instinctive goal inside the 6 yard box. Is it too much to ask a manger who is limited in his options to at least consider the options that ARE available to him? So he can maybe try another way of playing vs the one he is married to come hell or high water.

We looked shit most of today because we have a CF who is working his way to being the worst we have ever had at this level. He offers literally nothing as an attacking force. So while admittedly Kodjia isn’t the player he once was he’s a player we should be trying if nothing else to take the pressure off Wesley. Right now we are just throwing him into games, hoping and praying he comes good when in fact it’s likely having the very opposite affect and chipping away further at what is an already fragile confidence and morale.

[itmustbe_it is!]

The last we saw if Kodjia he took a breakaway goal really well and scored in instinctive goal inside the 6 yard box. Is it too much to ask a manger who is limited in his options to at least consider the options that ARE available to him? So he can maybe try another way of playing vs the one he is married to come hell or high water.

We looked shit most of today because we have a CF who is working his way to being the worst we have ever had at this level. He offers literally nothing as an attacking force. So while admittedly Kodjia isn’t the player he once was he’s a player we should be trying if nothing else to take the pressure off Wesley. Right now we are just throwing him into games, hoping and praying he comes good when in fact it’s likely having the very opposite affect and chipping away further at what is an already fragile confidence and morale.

Wesley was pretty good today, its just most are too blinkered to admit it. He worked his socks off in a game which was always going to be a scrap, no way would Kodjia have done that. Confidence wise, he looked better, and he was first or second up to the Holte after the match. Today will have done him some good, contrary to your post. It's all about opinions I know, but I think lots of them on here are more negative than is warranted , and just reflect the prevailing H and V breeze.

[Risso]

Wesley was crap. At one point he did manage to beat a player somehow, then ran into the area and passed it tamely to a Norwich player.  Then his one contribution late in the second half was a shit shot/pass at the Norwick keeper's near post, with no other Villa player anywhere near him.  His lack of effort in the last 20 minutes  was a complete disgrace. It's not just an H&V thing, people sat around us were screaming for him to be taken off.

[itmustbe_it is!]

Wesley was crap. At one point he did manage to beat a player somehow, then ran into the area and passed it tamely to a Norwich player.  Then his one contribution late in the second half was a shit shot/pass at the Norwick keeper's near post, with no other Villa player anywhere near him.  His lack of effort in the last 20 minutes  was a complete disgrace. It's not just an H&V thing, people sat around us were screaming for him to be taken off.

I think last 10 mins he was knackered, I don't think it was lack of effort. That was the time to sub him. For lack of effort generally see AEG,Trezeguet and Targett.