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Author Topic: Chelsea 2-1 Aston Villa post match thread  (Read 7085 times)

Offline Pat McMahon

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Re: Chelsea 2-1 Aston Villa post match thread
« Reply #165 on: December 05, 2019, 09:34:03 AM »
We were second best for most of the game.

Some poor defensive concentration and several players below par. I thought Heaton, Nakamba, Elmo and Luiz were all decent and Jack did well in patches.

From the away end you could see that we were defending narrowly as we often do, and Chelsea were keeping William (who was the best player on the pitch for me) and on the other flank Pulisic (I think) very wide, so they had easy wide balls as an option. We don't close these down quickly enough and both goals came from not stopping crosses. The way we defend we seem to depend on our wide midfielders / forwards to stop crosses rather than the defenders.

When we tried to play wide ourselves I thought Chelsea were very tight on us and didn't allow us space to attack them.

We stayed in the game, more due to Chelsea's profligacy than anything, but didn't really deserve a point. I think we need more pace in the team as an outlet when under pressure and we also have a soft underbelly so more physicality would help too.

Our away support was very good last night, though you could just about hear them in the second half. Chelsea was the quietest I have ever heard them at home, though I hadn't been there since the 2011 NYE win. Maybe we weren't enough to get them excited about?

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Re: Chelsea 2-1 Aston Villa post match thread
« Reply #166 on: December 05, 2019, 09:36:24 AM »
We desperately need real options up front - we don't have a realistic alternative to Wes and if he's having a mare we can't do anything. Roll on Jan. Bad day at the office - suspect Leicester might take their chances.

Offline dorsetvillian

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Re: Chelsea 2-1 Aston Villa post match thread
« Reply #167 on: December 05, 2019, 09:43:21 AM »
Did well in spells and stayed in the game. Chelsea were the best passing team I've seen. Needed Connor off earlier as he just didn't  have the mobility that Luis has. I thought Wes worked hard but couldn't help but imagine the difference Tammy would make in our team. A striker in Jan is a no brainer.

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Re: Chelsea 2-1 Aston Villa post match thread
« Reply #168 on: December 05, 2019, 09:59:10 AM »
If we don't create chances then we could have Andy Gray and Peter Withe up front and we still would not score many

Last night apart from the Grealish air kick our goal and Luiz header for me where our only real efforts.

I don't remember any other chance we created where we should have definitely scored?

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Re: Chelsea 2-1 Aston Villa post match thread
« Reply #169 on: December 05, 2019, 10:05:32 AM »
On the bright side, the build up to our goal featured some lovely football.

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Re: Chelsea 2-1 Aston Villa post match thread
« Reply #170 on: December 05, 2019, 10:12:17 AM »
We were second best for most of the game.

Some poor defensive concentration and several players below par. I thought Heaton, Nakamba, Elmo and Luiz were all decent and Jack did well in patches.

From the away end you could see that we were defending narrowly as we often do, and Chelsea were keeping William (who was the best player on the pitch for me) and on the other flank Pulisic (I think) very wide, so they had easy wide balls as an option. We don't close these down quickly enough and both goals came from not stopping crosses. The way we defend we seem to depend on our wide midfielders / forwards to stop crosses rather than the defenders.

When we tried to play wide ourselves I thought Chelsea were very tight on us and didn't allow us space to attack them.

We stayed in the game, more due to Chelsea's profligacy than anything, but didn't really deserve a point. I think we need more pace in the team as an outlet when under pressure and we also have a soft underbelly so more physicality would help too.


Well, at least me and you watched the same game as that's exactly as I seen it from the TV.

2-1 flattered us.  We couldn't have complained if it was 4 or 5 in all honesty. 

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Re: Chelsea 2-1 Aston Villa post match thread
« Reply #171 on: December 05, 2019, 10:15:07 AM »
The fact we are still in games that we are either drawing or losing is the reason Kodja doesn't come on. He is too indisciplined.

I'd like to think if Davis were fit, he would at least be coming on if not challenging for a place. Smith clearly has no faith in JK.

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Re: Chelsea 2-1 Aston Villa post match thread
« Reply #172 on: December 05, 2019, 10:24:00 AM »
Assuming it's still 36,points or above to stay up, I'm not worried in the slightest.

Not sure why I posted this here! (Face palm)

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Re: Chelsea 2-1 Aston Villa post match thread
« Reply #173 on: December 05, 2019, 10:26:35 AM »
The good news was we weren't hammered, the scoreline looks respectful, even though the performance clearly wasn't. I think our present league position is as much down to the recent below par performances of John McGinn than any other factor, when on his day he's one of the best players in the Premier league, outside of the top 4 teams in the league. The man's a match winner and I believe he will soon find his top form, when I reckon we can be looking at a mid table position and no relegation concerns.

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Re: Chelsea 2-1 Aston Villa post match thread
« Reply #174 on: December 05, 2019, 10:32:24 AM »
was that our worst performance of this season ?  I can't make my mind up between this game and the Wolves match...


anyway on to Leicester Sunday

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Re: Chelsea 2-1 Aston Villa post match thread
« Reply #175 on: December 05, 2019, 10:34:16 AM »
It was painfull seeing Tammy in a Chelsea shirt tonight when we desperately need him. We were second best but with a bit of presence up front we could have nicked something.
He was always going to score against us wasn't he?  :'(
What sort of reception did he get from the Villa fans who were there?

very warm. his movement and tracking back is much missed!

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Re: Chelsea 2-1 Aston Villa post match thread
« Reply #176 on: December 05, 2019, 11:19:30 AM »
They were (are) better than us, and we lack options when we're playing big games so close together.
However, we did hang in there and defending well under big pressure at times. Hourihane is a passenger in these sort of games, he hasn't got the legs to get close enough to the opposition when they have the ball, and we looked better when he went off.
Thought Elmo was our best player last night, his defending of the back post was absolutely textbook, his positioning saved at least two goals and his cross for the goal was majestic.

We'll be fine though, and Chelsea were very good.

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Re: Chelsea 2-1 Aston Villa post match thread
« Reply #177 on: December 05, 2019, 11:20:39 AM »
Disappointed with losing hopefully we can put that right on Sunday against Leicester like Pat McMahon said our away support was the best again I bloody love the Villa.

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Re: Chelsea 2-1 Aston Villa post match thread
« Reply #178 on: December 05, 2019, 11:39:57 AM »
thought we hung in there and looked dangerous at times but the final ball was rubbish all night ( Elmoís aside)
overhit to many times straight into the goalies arms

I still think a Grealish is wasted when he plays on the left wing heís got more to offer in central mid

Heaton, McGinn, Grealish, Marvo were are best performers and Luiz when he came on
the rest had poorish games really

Wesley does some good things but isnít a goal danger did he even have one chance

Conor is great when we are on top heíll chip in with a goal/assist when we are running the game ie Norwich, Man Utd, Newcastle
when the going gets tougher heís not the man

one last thing
Canít make my mind up which is the most soulless passionless ground to watch football in between
Man City, Chelsea, Arsenal, Man Utd, Spurs been to them all, three of them this season and every time I come away thinking thank fuck we are not them




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Re: Chelsea 2-1 Aston Villa post match thread
« Reply #179 on: December 05, 2019, 12:11:42 PM »
Their squad worth about four times ours.

Their trophy count significantly higher.

They've been in the top reaches of the league for years and won the Champions League only We've just been promoted having been in the championship and before that having circled the Premier League plughole for half a decade.

They won the league as recently as 2017 and the Europa League last season.

It's the reality, we're going to have bad days, and this is precisely the sort of team it's likely to happen against.

I was flat watching it, as it didn't look like we'd get anything from the game. However xwe hung in there and didn't get hammered (score wise).

Onwards.

Chris Wilder doesn't give a shit about any of that and goes there with a more limited team than ours and battles for a well-earned point. Aren't you a Sheff lad now, Drummond? Learn from that grit in them parts.
Also, as has been pointed out, Chelsea's goalscorers were both playing in the same division as us last season. I would have expected us to be more competitive last night.

Yes, their striker played for us and was the first player to score more than 20 in a season since Withe.
Mount has been called up for England, perhaps the goals are why he's getting picked and Grealish isn't.

Sheffield United clearly play a different type of game to ours. I do think however, that next Saturday will be a good test of how both clubs are doing. I'm hoping we royally fuck them over to be fair.

I think your expectation has been built as a result of the start we've made and how well we've done in games such as Liverpool, Man Utd, Arsenal and Spurs. City fucked us over and now Chelsea have. But we've played most of them away now, bring it on at Villa Park.