I think at the very least we certainly continued to show we won't be whipping boys at this level.
Quote from: hilts_coolerking on December 04, 2019, 10:08:22 PMUntil he popped up with the equaliser I genuinely didn't know Trez was playing.He touched the ball three times before then.
Until he popped up with the equaliser I genuinely didn't know Trez was playing.
Sweet baby Jesus and the orphans.
I’m not Wesley’s biggest fan but I thought he did well tonight.
Quote from: Villafirst on December 04, 2019, 10:08:46 PMHause deserves a chance at Left back. He was excellent there last season. He would also add height and strength at the back. He was MOTM against Wolves in the Carabao Cup. He was back in the squad for the last couple of games, but was dropped for Taylor on the bench tonight.
Hause deserves a chance at Left back. He was excellent there last season. He would also add height and strength at the back. He was MOTM against Wolves in the Carabao Cup.
Quote from: tomd2103 on December 04, 2019, 10:53:03 PMThink Dean Smith and the coaching staff got it wrong tonight. We were far too open in midfield at times tonight and in games like that away from home, we need to go with Luiz and Nakamba. Hourihane is far too lightweight to compete against those type of sides and they just strolled past him at will.We may be able to play with just the one holding midfielder against the poorer sides in the league, but we need to be a lot stronger in there when we come up against the better sides.Luiz was woeful away at Wolves next to Nakamba, they both were really. His effort to stop Traore for the winning Wolves goal was as bad if not worse than anything Hourihane did tonight. Don't think Luiz can have any complaints about being dropped. Much better performance tonight when he came in but a long way to go before he is a nailed on starter for me. Irrespective of who we have in midfield, we are very easy to play against. That's a big problem and a real lack of pace all over the pitch. Only AEG and Mings stand out as genuinely quick. Targett and Hourihane are snail like when turned. Tonight our press was severely limited as Trez and Wes are one paced.
Think Dean Smith and the coaching staff got it wrong tonight. We were far too open in midfield at times tonight and in games like that away from home, we need to go with Luiz and Nakamba. Hourihane is far too lightweight to compete against those type of sides and they just strolled past him at will.We may be able to play with just the one holding midfielder against the poorer sides in the league, but we need to be a lot stronger in there when we come up against the better sides.
Quote from: villabear on December 04, 2019, 10:23:08 PMQuote from: Newby on December 04, 2019, 10:08:07 PMQuote from: villabear on December 04, 2019, 10:04:16 PMQuote from: MalcolmP on December 04, 2019, 09:52:08 PMQuote from: Newby on December 04, 2019, 09:34:40 PMNewly promoted side against a well stacked outfit. We bring on Jota, they bring on Jorginho. That said, I thought we were our own worst enemy. Terrible defending for the goals. Mings and Konsa had a night off, timid all over the pitch, stood off in midfield. We don't quite have enough class yet to compete with these sides. Wesley? I'm not sure what people are expecting when there are two players on him and no Villa player around him? No-one else was any better, or worse than him. They won all the second balls and we looked tired and punchless. 2-1 flatters us. Poor performance and now only 1 point outside the bottom 3. At last some sense about Wesley - Messi could do no more with high balls up to him with no support and surrounded by 3 defenders. All the Wesley haters just stop making him a scapegoat..Mings and Mcginn both need dropping and is Targett really any better than Taylior? Don't agree on Wesley. I don’t expect him to do miracles but I do expect him to hold the ball up occasionally and take a bit of pressure of us as surely that’s why he’s there. Does he look a goal threat, no and McGinn needs dropping eh 🙄Mate, seriously, if you have ever played centre forward and all you get is the ball whacked up to you, high in the air and you are on your own, I defy anyone to do any better. Yes, I want him to push people over and compete, show more bollocks, but the way we play, does him no favours either. He does need more physicality but he is NOT totally at fault.But we don't just whack the ball up to him. Okay tonight we were limited but we haven't played like that every game.the thing that pissed me off about us the most tonight, is that we really had to fight and compete for the ball and we did that, but on the times where we did win it and get forward in to good positions, it would either be a shit or wrong final ball in, or the forwards were making the wrong runs. The one time we got it right, we scored.
Quote from: Newby on December 04, 2019, 10:08:07 PMQuote from: villabear on December 04, 2019, 10:04:16 PMQuote from: MalcolmP on December 04, 2019, 09:52:08 PMQuote from: Newby on December 04, 2019, 09:34:40 PMNewly promoted side against a well stacked outfit. We bring on Jota, they bring on Jorginho. That said, I thought we were our own worst enemy. Terrible defending for the goals. Mings and Konsa had a night off, timid all over the pitch, stood off in midfield. We don't quite have enough class yet to compete with these sides. Wesley? I'm not sure what people are expecting when there are two players on him and no Villa player around him? No-one else was any better, or worse than him. They won all the second balls and we looked tired and punchless. 2-1 flatters us. Poor performance and now only 1 point outside the bottom 3. At last some sense about Wesley - Messi could do no more with high balls up to him with no support and surrounded by 3 defenders. All the Wesley haters just stop making him a scapegoat..Mings and Mcginn both need dropping and is Targett really any better than Taylior? Don't agree on Wesley. I don’t expect him to do miracles but I do expect him to hold the ball up occasionally and take a bit of pressure of us as surely that’s why he’s there. Does he look a goal threat, no and McGinn needs dropping eh 🙄Mate, seriously, if you have ever played centre forward and all you get is the ball whacked up to you, high in the air and you are on your own, I defy anyone to do any better. Yes, I want him to push people over and compete, show more bollocks, but the way we play, does him no favours either. He does need more physicality but he is NOT totally at fault.But we don't just whack the ball up to him. Okay tonight we were limited but we haven't played like that every game.
Quote from: villabear on December 04, 2019, 10:04:16 PMQuote from: MalcolmP on December 04, 2019, 09:52:08 PMQuote from: Newby on December 04, 2019, 09:34:40 PMNewly promoted side against a well stacked outfit. We bring on Jota, they bring on Jorginho. That said, I thought we were our own worst enemy. Terrible defending for the goals. Mings and Konsa had a night off, timid all over the pitch, stood off in midfield. We don't quite have enough class yet to compete with these sides. Wesley? I'm not sure what people are expecting when there are two players on him and no Villa player around him? No-one else was any better, or worse than him. They won all the second balls and we looked tired and punchless. 2-1 flatters us. Poor performance and now only 1 point outside the bottom 3. At last some sense about Wesley - Messi could do no more with high balls up to him with no support and surrounded by 3 defenders. All the Wesley haters just stop making him a scapegoat..Mings and Mcginn both need dropping and is Targett really any better than Taylior? Don't agree on Wesley. I don’t expect him to do miracles but I do expect him to hold the ball up occasionally and take a bit of pressure of us as surely that’s why he’s there. Does he look a goal threat, no and McGinn needs dropping eh 🙄Mate, seriously, if you have ever played centre forward and all you get is the ball whacked up to you, high in the air and you are on your own, I defy anyone to do any better. Yes, I want him to push people over and compete, show more bollocks, but the way we play, does him no favours either. He does need more physicality but he is NOT totally at fault.
Quote from: MalcolmP on December 04, 2019, 09:52:08 PMQuote from: Newby on December 04, 2019, 09:34:40 PMNewly promoted side against a well stacked outfit. We bring on Jota, they bring on Jorginho. That said, I thought we were our own worst enemy. Terrible defending for the goals. Mings and Konsa had a night off, timid all over the pitch, stood off in midfield. We don't quite have enough class yet to compete with these sides. Wesley? I'm not sure what people are expecting when there are two players on him and no Villa player around him? No-one else was any better, or worse than him. They won all the second balls and we looked tired and punchless. 2-1 flatters us. Poor performance and now only 1 point outside the bottom 3. At last some sense about Wesley - Messi could do no more with high balls up to him with no support and surrounded by 3 defenders. All the Wesley haters just stop making him a scapegoat..Mings and Mcginn both need dropping and is Targett really any better than Taylior? Don't agree on Wesley. I don’t expect him to do miracles but I do expect him to hold the ball up occasionally and take a bit of pressure of us as surely that’s why he’s there. Does he look a goal threat, no and McGinn needs dropping eh 🙄
Quote from: Newby on December 04, 2019, 09:34:40 PMNewly promoted side against a well stacked outfit. We bring on Jota, they bring on Jorginho. That said, I thought we were our own worst enemy. Terrible defending for the goals. Mings and Konsa had a night off, timid all over the pitch, stood off in midfield. We don't quite have enough class yet to compete with these sides. Wesley? I'm not sure what people are expecting when there are two players on him and no Villa player around him? No-one else was any better, or worse than him. They won all the second balls and we looked tired and punchless. 2-1 flatters us. Poor performance and now only 1 point outside the bottom 3. At last some sense about Wesley - Messi could do no more with high balls up to him with no support and surrounded by 3 defenders. All the Wesley haters just stop making him a scapegoat..Mings and Mcginn both need dropping and is Targett really any better than Taylior?
Newly promoted side against a well stacked outfit. We bring on Jota, they bring on Jorginho. That said, I thought we were our own worst enemy. Terrible defending for the goals. Mings and Konsa had a night off, timid all over the pitch, stood off in midfield. We don't quite have enough class yet to compete with these sides. Wesley? I'm not sure what people are expecting when there are two players on him and no Villa player around him? No-one else was any better, or worse than him. They won all the second balls and we looked tired and punchless. 2-1 flatters us. Poor performance and now only 1 point outside the bottom 3.
Quote from: olaftab on December 05, 2019, 12:00:32 AMMahmoud Hasan is unlucky. He scores we lose so we must stop him from scoring😆Best outfield villa player tonight Attacking wise always offers a potential threat 9 starts 3 goals.Come season end everyone here will be raving about him.I already recognise his ability .
Mahmoud Hasan is unlucky. He scores we lose so we must stop him from scoring😆