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Offline themossman

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Re: Winter transfer, gossip, speculation and usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #465 on: December 15, 2019, 05:09:24 PM »
Douglas Luiz is talented, but he’s clearly a playmaker type as opposed to a ball winner.

That’s the thing, you could make a decent argument that trezeguet, jota, luiz, SJM, hourihane, marvelous, although they are all different players, are all best in that no. 10 position, which is mad when you consider that A. we have jack and B. we only bought one striker.

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Re: Winter transfer, gossip, speculation and usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #466 on: December 15, 2019, 05:18:24 PM »
Morelos sent off again 😂

You still would though?

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Re: Winter transfer, gossip, speculation and usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #467 on: December 15, 2019, 05:44:15 PM »
Douglas Luiz is talented, but he’s clearly a playmaker type as opposed to a ball winner.
His attitude is like he is expecting the call from Pep..

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Re: Winter transfer, gossip, speculation and usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #468 on: December 15, 2019, 05:46:59 PM »
Douglas Luiz is talented, but he’s clearly a playmaker type as opposed to a ball winner.
His attitude is like he is expecting the call from Pep..

Or to get sent out on loan somewhere warmer.

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Re: Winter transfer, gossip, speculation and usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #469 on: December 15, 2019, 06:49:56 PM »
How's Veretout doing, can we take him back?

Playing every game for Roma having joined them in the summer for 20m euros.

Offline Three Spires Villa

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Re: Winter transfer, gossip, speculation and usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #470 on: December 15, 2019, 07:21:53 PM »
Morelos sent off again 😂

You still would though?

No, but I would Edouard, much better player & scores in big games

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Re: Winter transfer, gossip, speculation and usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #471 on: December 15, 2019, 08:24:42 PM »
Wasn't he Larry Grayson's mate?

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Re: Winter transfer, gossip, speculation and usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #472 on: December 15, 2019, 11:30:08 PM »
Douglas Luiz is talented, but he’s clearly a playmaker type as opposed to a ball winner.

That might be the case but to be a competitive midfielder in this division you need to be able to do both. I was watching Souness giving analysis on the Spurs player Lo Celso v Bayern during the week and he made the point that modern midfielders need to run as fast getting back as they do going forward. Called Lo Celso out for making a risible effort getting back for one of the Bayern goals and how he wouldn't get a look in under Mourinho if he didn't buck up his ideas. He would have a field day analysing our midfielders without the ball, all of them to be honest.

As far as I can make out, Luiz was bought to ultimately replace Hourihane in the team and be a deep lying playmaker getting the ball off the back. But he also seemed to have a good engine and would be able to press the opposition. He is young and had a limited pre season with us but his efforts without the ball are getting worse. Absymal sub appearance at the weekend where he was no better than the painfully limited Lansbury. Maybe that's where we are lacking those experienced pros in the dressing room to call that out.

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Re: Winter transfer, gossip, speculation and usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #473 on: December 15, 2019, 11:56:14 PM »
Our players appear lazy without the ball, there is little movement to make space, if they have the ball they pass it off and then play statues. The one exception to this is Grealish and that's why he stands out in this side.

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Re: Winter transfer, gossip, speculation and usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #474 on: December 16, 2019, 12:02:51 AM »
Our players appear lazy without the ball, there is little movement to make space, if they have the ball they pass it off and then play statues. The one exception to this is Grealish and that's why he stands out in this side.

Not that I disagree, but we've been saying this about our players for as long as I've been reading about us online.

Offline RamboandBruno

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Re: Winter transfer, gossip, speculation and usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #475 on: December 16, 2019, 09:15:02 AM »
I’ve said before but I think Luiz is a player for the summer months. Best game I’ve seen him have was against the Wolves kids in LC, where he ran the show as he should against a bunch of youngsters. But even then he lost the ball in midfield for their goal and rolled around seemingly hurt rather than make any effort to get back, he was up 2 mins later ok to carry on. He has undoubted ability, but for me is far away from being ready for the physical battle of English football. Hourihane can be good for a game then disappears for the next two, but I tend to think he has a bit of grit and passion and grealish plays better when he’s in the team.

I would try and have some consistency with Nakamba a regular in front of back 4, McGinn and grealish in the middle and Hourihane on the left, with either of trez or el ghazi on the right.

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Re: Winter transfer, gossip, speculation and usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #476 on: December 16, 2019, 09:18:12 AM »
I see Newcastle are heavily linked with Jared Bowen I hope we are in for him.

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Re: Winter transfer, gossip, speculation and usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #477 on: December 16, 2019, 11:35:33 AM »
Wasn't he Larry Grayson's mate?

Slack Alice?

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Re: Winter transfer, gossip, speculation and usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #478 on: December 16, 2019, 11:51:45 AM »
I see Newcastle are heavily linked with Jared Bowen I hope we are in for him.

Steve Bruce just having a quick look at who's top of the championship scoring charts and deciding to bid 12m for them, surely not...

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Re: Winter transfer, gossip, speculation and usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #479 on: December 16, 2019, 01:32:13 PM »
Interesting / depressing story in the Athletic that Delle Alli was at Bodymoor Heath with his family on the last day of the January 2015 transfer window, all ready to sign for Villa. They were unimpressed that Paul Lambert wasn’t there in person so when Spurs came in at the last minute, he changed his mind.

What a shambles we were then.

 


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