Aston Villa v Liverpool Post Match Thread

[pauliewalnuts]

If it had been a routine 3-0 win for Liverpool I'm convinced there'd be way less criticism of the team than they're getting because they were 1 up with 3 mins to go.

There would be, but it’s not really surprising.

We are repeatedly turning three points into zero after taking the lead. That’s way more worrying than getting beaten 3-0 by the European champions.

The impact of it being Liverpool is that it’s just more frustrating because we came so close to getting something

[Three Spires Villa]

F**k, s**t, bollocks, hate those red s**t. Ref was appalling & the sooner VAR goes the better. Battled well at times, but guess it was coming, very passed off, which I guess is a good thing

[SoccerHQ]

I think they were all over us. We hardly came out of our half. And they could have scored in other situations. Maybe I'm naive, but having watched this and been at the City game - if we don't attack and threaten sides - our defenders will make mistakes and that will cost us points. We need more pace and a decent threatening striker.

We've been fine against most teams in the league, the top 2 are just miles ahead of the rest and that's reflected in their intensity, mentality and of course the points tallies.

If we play like that against likes of Spurs, Arsenal and Man. United at VP we will take some points off those I'm sure.

Agreed. Think it’s still somewhat underestimate how bloody good Liverpool are (unfortunately). Their intensity and pressure on the ball makes it really difficult to attack against them. And I actually think despite that we did create a couple of decent opportunities in the second half still.

That’s all fine and good but it has nothing to do with losing the game from a corner with 15 seconds left until the final whistle.

I was in the car at the time so was following game by a betting website. It actually came up on 93.47 minutes as "Aston Villa goal kick." I assume that info was wrong as then the goal horn went off on WM....also annoying I didn't put a bet on Liverpool to win when they were 12/1 around the 80th minute, the perils of thinking we might just hang on this time....

Could Heaton have come for the corner, apparently Mane scored in the six yard box? I'd always be looking for a keeper to come out if it's a corner in injury time tbh.

[Goldie.7]

Could have been a lot worse. Getting into the mindset of 'we might just win this' makes it feel worse.

Aston Villa Football Club

It’s the hope that kills you

2019

Not really. It was a predictable result however it happened.

[PeterWithesShin]

If it had been a routine 3-0 win for Liverpool I'm convinced there'd be way less criticism of the team than they're getting because they were 1 up with 3 mins to go.

There would be, but it’s not really surprising.

We are repeatedly turning three points into zero after taking the lead. That’s way more worrying than getting beaten 3-0 by the European champions.

The impact of it being Liverpool is that it’s just more frustrating because we came so close to getting something

It's happening against the best sides in the country, quite how giving them all a game is worse than them routinely whipping us is quite frankly mental.

[ez]

Gutted. Smith really needs to learn how to make subs that alter tactics rather then just like for like replacements. We never learn.

So who should we have replaced our injured RB with apart from another RB? Who should we have replaced our clearly knackered striker with apart from with a striker?

Did we need to bring another striker on? 86 minutes gone, bring on another defender and stick 5 across the back. It's just not Smith's way and it will cost us points. There's nothing wrong in parking the bus sometimes.

[Mellin]

I think they were all over us. We hardly came out of our half. And they could have scored in other situations. Maybe I'm naive, but having watched this and been at the City game - if we don't attack and threaten sides - our defenders will make mistakes and that will cost us points. We need more pace and a decent threatening striker.

We've been fine against most teams in the league, the top 2 are just miles ahead of the rest and that's reflected in their intensity, mentality and of course the points tallies.

If we play like that against likes of Spurs, Arsenal and Man. United at VP we will take some points off those I'm sure.

Agreed. Think it’s still somewhat underestimate how bloody good Liverpool are (unfortunately). Their intensity and pressure on the ball makes it really difficult to attack against them. And I actually think despite that we did create a couple of decent opportunities in the second half still.

That’s all fine and good but it has nothing to do with losing the game from a corner with 15 seconds left until the final whistle.

I was in the car at the time so was following game by a betting website. It actually came up on 93.47 minutes as "Aston Villa goal kick." I assume that info was wrong as then the goal horn went off on WM....also annoying I didn't put a bet on Liverpool to win when they were 12/1 around the 80th minute, the perils of thinking we might just hang on this time....

Could Heaton have come for the corner, apparently Mane scored in the six yard box? I'd always be looking for a keeper to come out if it's a corner in injury time tbh.

Front post header. No chance of coming out.

[SoccerHQ]

Anyway good to see Trez score, I have a feeling he'll kick on now as he's certainly had a look of a player desperate to score and mentally being restricted by not finishing off chances.

Could be a nice surprise in the next few weeks.

[kippaxvilla2]

You expect to lose to the top two.  But neither have them have beaten us with world class performances.  We’ve lost on aggregate 5-1 and every single Fcukin goal was pretty much given to them by our errors.

[SoccerHQ]

I think they were all over us. We hardly came out of our half. And they could have scored in other situations. Maybe I'm naive, but having watched this and been at the City game - if we don't attack and threaten sides - our defenders will make mistakes and that will cost us points. We need more pace and a decent threatening striker.

We've been fine against most teams in the league, the top 2 are just miles ahead of the rest and that's reflected in their intensity, mentality and of course the points tallies.

If we play like that against likes of Spurs, Arsenal and Man. United at VP we will take some points off those I'm sure.

Agreed. Think it’s still somewhat underestimate how bloody good Liverpool are (unfortunately). Their intensity and pressure on the ball makes it really difficult to attack against them. And I actually think despite that we did create a couple of decent opportunities in the second half still.

That’s all fine and good but it has nothing to do with losing the game from a corner with 15 seconds left until the final whistle.

I was in the car at the time so was following game by a betting website. It actually came up on 93.47 minutes as "Aston Villa goal kick." I assume that info was wrong as then the goal horn went off on WM....also annoying I didn't put a bet on Liverpool to win when they were 12/1 around the 80th minute, the perils of thinking we might just hang on this time....

Could Heaton have come for the corner, apparently Mane scored in the six yard box? I'd always be looking for a keeper to come out if it's a corner in injury time tbh.

Front post header. No chance of coming out.

Fair enough. Did we not stick Kodj at the near post then? Seems a very cheap goal to concede a header at that area, most teams just stick a big striker to head them away as we used to with likes of Heskey and Carew and with less success with Benteke.

[Rudy65]

I think they were all over us. We hardly came out of our half. And they could have scored in other situations. Maybe I'm naive, but having watched this and been at the City game - if we don't attack and threaten sides - our defenders will make mistakes and that will cost us points. We need more pace and a decent threatening striker.

We've been fine against most teams in the league, the top 2 are just miles ahead of the rest and that's reflected in their intensity, mentality and of course the points tallies.

If we play like that against likes of Spurs, Arsenal and Man. United at VP we will take some points off those I'm sure.

Agreed. Think it’s still somewhat underestimate how bloody good Liverpool are (unfortunately). Their intensity and pressure on the ball makes it really difficult to attack against them. And I actually think despite that we did create a couple of decent opportunities in the second half still.

That’s all fine and good but it has nothing to do with losing the game from a corner with 15 seconds left until the final whistle.

I was in the car at the time so was following game by a betting website. It actually came up on 93.47 minutes as "Aston Villa goal kick." I assume that info was wrong as then the goal horn went off on WM....also annoying I didn't put a bet on Liverpool to win when they were 12/1 around the 80th minute, the perils of thinking we might just hang on this time....

Could Heaton have come for the corner, apparently Mane scored in the six yard box? I'd always be looking for a keeper to come out if it's a corner in injury time tbh.

Front post header. No chance of coming out.

With the back of his head. Unchallenged. We should have defended better. Galling, given how we defended for the first 85 mins

[Legion]

Highlights

[wince]

Sitting deep would have meant yet more pressure. This is why we are where we are and Liverpool are where they are. It’s shit but we move on. What is more important is that we gave Man City and Liverpool a game and wasn’t annihilated. We held our own and that is encouraging.

[charleeco7]

Gutted but job esus some on here need a reality check. We were bloody unlucky in the end against the European championship. Considering where we’ve come from in such a short space of time I thought we were superb.

[Luke8]

That’s all fine and good but it has nothing to do with losing the game from a corner with 15 seconds left until the final whistle.

 Or it you look at it purely in an individual sense. But that’s true of plenty of points in the game (there was moment where Trezeguet could have made a better decision and crosses for McGinn to maybe make it 2-0 for example).

My pinky was more in response to the points being made that  we were ‘outclassed’ second half and they were ‘all over us’.

Obviously there is always scope for improvement but I though we defended well overall and restricted them to very few good goal scoring chances while still creating some of our own. And they are comfortably one of the two best teams we will play against this season.