Chantwatch

[Three Spires Villa]

Its disgusting and i hope with the amount of publicity those "songs" are not heard again

[Footy-Vill]

I think anyone on here who partakes in chant is now aware it's unsavory and they can also help to stop it .And that can only be a good thing .

[Clampy]

Everyone has condemned the chant and rightly so but what I don't understand is I've seen loads of people say "I saw these lads singing this". So why did nobody tell them to stop? All it would have taken is one geezer to tell them to stop or to shut up a d they would have and wouldn't have done it again. Everyone is very quick to criticise them and lay into them on the internet but not to their faces.

Are you suggesting that those who were not at Carrow Road should not speak out about it?

Yes, well next time you hear them sing it at an away game, do what you have just suggested and let us know how you get on.

[QuintonVilla]

Everyone has condemned the chant and rightly so but what I don't understand is I've seen loads of people say "I saw these lads singing this". So why did nobody tell them to stop? All it would have taken is one geezer to tell them to stop or to shut up a d they would have and wouldn't have done it again. Everyone is very quick to criticise them and lay into them on the internet but not to their faces.

Yes, well next time you hear them sing it at an away game, do what you have just suggested and let us know how you get on.

Will do mate

[Clampy]

Everyone has condemned the chant and rightly so but what I don't understand is I've seen loads of people say "I saw these lads singing this". So why did nobody tell them to stop? All it would have taken is one geezer to tell them to stop or to shut up a d they would have and wouldn't have done it again. Everyone is very quick to criticise them and lay into them on the internet but not to their faces.

Yes, well next time you hear them sing it at an away game, do what you have just suggested and let us know how you get on.

Will do mate

Yeah, I'm sure you will.

[KKAVFC]

Totally agree with the majority of comments & courses of action on here. We have already seen & can relate our own problems to that witnessed at Chelsea & Tammy in particular. He has risen to the sickening abuse by their scum element by doing what he did for us last season, scoring for fun !

[QuintonVilla]

Everyone has condemned the chant and rightly so but what I don't understand is I've seen loads of people say "I saw these lads singing this". So why did nobody tell them to stop? All it would have taken is one geezer to tell them to stop or to shut up a d they would have and wouldn't have done it again. Everyone is very quick to criticise them and lay into them on the internet but not to their faces.

Yes, well next time you hear them sing it at an away game, do what you have just suggested and let us know how you get on.

Will do mate

Yeah, I'm sure you will.

Love you Clampet

[Clampy]

Lads, ssssh. This chap has just told us to stop singing it. Come on, let's go and get a pie and a bovril and take our seats.

 

[Hookeysmith]

I don't want to condemn all youth of today but there is a theme with them.

I go to the local pub each Friday and walk through a gully that has been used as a hang out since I was a lad. More recently there are about 6-10 of them and you can smell the weed a mile off. I assumed they were around 18 -20 year olds and the mess they make with cans / broken bottles etc is awful. Anyways a week or so ago I am walking through when they were seemingly acting out fighting with each other. Usually (as I unfortunately look my age) they stop and move out of the way but this one week one of the muppets who I assumed was 18-19 and clearly off his head in his top to toe North face track suit gave it the "What you looking at you cnut" to which his "mates" said sorry and told him to shut up. He then spat at the floor as I walked past and really tried to goad me. Now anyone who knows me knows that im a decent size and would never back away from anyone but I had this thought in my mind - what if they have knives etc and just ignored it. I got to the pub and was seething both due to their arrogance and my not turning and smacking the twat as under normal circumstances I would of.
Next day I return home after a round of golf and the kid walks past me on his own and it is obvious in daylight he is more around 15/16. I get out the car as I was to say something to him and he shit himself and ran for it. Could you imagine the crap I would have been in if I had smacked the scrote?
They did something similar to a neighbour and they called the police and they knew all bout this "gang" but seemingly not done anything.

My point is that these bellends think that they have impunity to do what the hell they want - maybe a good hiding is really the only answer

[Ian.]

Well I would not like to confront a group of pissed up youths singing hateful songs and I don't think my wife and children would appreciate it either. If you can not report it or discuss it here afterwards this behaviour will not stop. I'm sure the outrage it has caused on here, other forums and Twitter is the reason it has been condemned by the Club and hopefully help put an end to it.

Anyway to bloody right they are being criticised on nearly every platform going. For a change the power of the 'net' has done very well indeed.

[itmustbe_it is!]

One thing I don’t like is the way it’s being reported - it is universally being reported that Villa fans sang racist songs directed AT their own player - this reads more like the abuse Tammy got from Chelsea fans earlier , and I think that’s misleading .
We all agree it’s wrong and we all rightly condemn it , but I don’t want us tarred with the same brush as what happened  with Tammy . In their VERY misguided way these fans thought they were celebrating Nakamba not abusing him . They were very wrong but in my opinion it’s not quite the same as the tweets Tammy got which were intentionally abusive and designed to be hurtful

Note - I’m not making excuses for the dickheads , just think the reporting isn’t quite accurate

[Darth Villa]

One thing I don’t like is the way it’s being reported - it is universally being reported that Villa fans sang racist songs directed AT their own player - this reads more like the abuse Tammy got from Chelsea fans earlier , and I think that’s misleading .
We all agree it’s wrong and we all rightly condemn it , but I don’t want us tarred with the same brush as what happened  with Tammy . In their VERY misguided way these fans thought they were celebrating Nakamba not abusing him . They were very wrong but in my opinion it’s not quite the same as the tweets Tammy got which were intentionally abusive and designed to be hurtful

Note - I’m not making excuses for the dickheads , just think the reporting isn’t quite accurate

I appreciate you're trying not to make excuses but sorry, you are. And it's a very poor excuse. It’s racist, they know it’s racist and they think it’s funny. The chant is abusive, and directly abusing Nakamba, would they sing this if he was white? Describing it as misguided provides a defence for which there is none.

There are no excuses for this behaviour, someone else posted that the real story was 2600 fans celebrating Nakamba with a proper song… “the real story" pfft… 2600 people behaving properly isn’t a story. The poster rightfully condemned the chants but there’s definitely a small sense of, it’s just a small minority/let’s not let this spoil our reputation.

Unfortunately no matter how small a percentage of our following these morons are we still have a group of who appear to think this is funny, clever and acceptable. Thirty people walking down the street singing racist shit on any other day would be quite rightly shocking news. Putting them into a football setting does not mitigate that. I don’t go away that often, maybe just a few times a season but over the last few years I’ve noticed an increase in number of these twats and they aren’t all kids. I think our support both home and away is brilliant. Pointing out we have an issue with a small group isn’t knocking that majority.

The club statement is well worded and hits the tone just right. I don’t know what how they plan to follow through on it but I hope it’s not going to purely rely on decent fans to solve the problem. As has been pointed out, pissed up, drugged up morons with safety in numbers are not rational people to deal with, regardless of CCTV and stewards.
 
Personally I’d like to see us be very open and public about the issue, let’s have the playing staff speak out about it, let’s have DS address it in his next presser. Let’s make sure this minority know they are not welcome. There’s no easy solution and it’s root causes go beyond football, but I’d like to see the club try. Let’s be the club that sets an example on an issue that to be honest has never been properly addressed within football. I think that would be much more of a Villa response.

[The Edge]

One thing I don’t like is the way it’s being reported - it is universally being reported that Villa fans sang racist songs directed AT their own player - this reads more like the abuse Tammy got from Chelsea fans earlier , and I think that’s misleading .
We all agree it’s wrong and we all rightly condemn it , but I don’t want us tarred with the same brush as what happened  with Tammy . In their VERY misguided way these fans thought they were celebrating Nakamba not abusing him . They were very wrong but in my opinion it’s not quite the same as the tweets Tammy got which were intentionally abusive and designed to be hurtful

Note - I’m not making excuses for the dickheads , just think the reporting isn’t quite accurate

I appreciate you're trying not to make excuses but sorry, you are. And it's a very poor excuse. It’s racist, they know it’s racist and they think it’s funny. The chant is abusive, and directly abusing Nakamba, would they sing this if he was white? Describing it as misguided provides a defence for which there is none.

There are no excuses for this behaviour, someone else posted that the real story was 2600 fans celebrating Nakamba with a proper song… “the real story" pfft… 2600 people behaving properly isn’t a story. The poster rightfully condemned the chants but there’s definitely a small sense of, it’s just a small minority/let’s not let this spoil our reputation.

Unfortunately no matter how small a percentage of our following these morons are we still have a group of who appear to think this is funny, clever and acceptable. Thirty people walking down the street singing racist shit on any other day would be quite rightly shocking news. Putting them into a football setting does not mitigate that. I don’t go away that often, maybe just a few times a season but over the last few years I’ve noticed an increase in number of these twats and they aren’t all kids. I think our support both home and away is brilliant. Pointing out we have an issue with a small group isn’t knocking that majority.

The club statement is well worded and hits the tone just right. I don’t know what how they plan to follow through on it but I hope it’s not going to purely rely on decent fans to solve the problem. As has been pointed out, pissed up, drugged up morons with safety in numbers are not rational people to deal with, regardless of CCTV and stewards.
 
Personally I’d like to see us be very open and public about the issue, let’s have the playing staff speak out about it, let’s have DS address it in his next presser. Let’s make sure this minority know they are not welcome. There’s no easy solution and it’s root causes go beyond football, but I’d like to see the club try. Let’s be the club that sets an example on an issue that to be honest has never been properly addressed within football. I think that would be much more of a Villa response.

The point itmusbe makes about the reporting of this is a valid one in my view. Marvelous will not have heard this chant allegedly "supporting" him because it's been done away from the pitch as far as i know. But he will definitely be aware of it now. What must he be thinking? The best we can do now is make a massive fuss of him when we play Brighton. We love him and he needs to know it. I'm talking massive banners-the lot.

[Small Rodent]

To be honest, if i was manager, I'd call them out for what they are. No hiding behind media-speak.

[Darth Villa]

I get his point, I just don't agree with it. I don't see a big difference in reporting - Minority of Aston Villa fans sing racist chant to applaud player. As opposed to - Minority of Aston Villa fans sing racist chant at player.

The intention isn't the problem with the above.

I agree with itmustbe that the abuse Tammy received was worse, but let's not play down the indiscretions of our own idiots because other people have done worse and we're worried we'll be tarred with the same brush.

Again, I understand you and itmustbe aren't trying to defend the chants, but there are no mitigating circumstances for racism, which at the end of the day is what it is. And I don't believe the twats singing this shit are so wet behind the ears that they don't realise it.