MOTD

[frankmosswasmyuncle]

Just looked it up....it was in January! I thought it was more like March(ish)!

[Pat McMahon]

I'm sure Warnock said he'd watched some training sessions with us in the summer, then came out with that prediction that none of his colleagues did. So it was an informed opinion from an ex-pro, something totally absent from his peers.

Although this tastes like shit in my mouth - after our big loss at Newcastle the redfacedcnut Fergiscum came out with a comment that he thought were a great team - i actually thought he was taking the piss.

I may of been wrong.

H&J just (who i usually really like) suggested we are a flash in the pan and they were not convinced - there is a common denominator  - Spurs and Chelsea fans respectively who just happened to have been beaten at home this season by the mighty Villa


Oh and last season as well in case they think it was a fluke 

Question to older Villa fans with better memories.

At what point in 1980/1 did the penny drop with the media that we were a real threat to winning the league?

We have 4 wins away from home v those pair London luvvies this calendar year.

1980/1 probably 2 weeks before we actually won it. Although I was only little at the time

I was 26 at the time and hardly missed a game. 2 weeks is about right though. Speaking with Sir Dennis last year he said they knew they stood the best chance of the title after the Liverpool game...and I think an awful lot of us thought exactly the same!

My recollection is that game brought us to the fore with the national press that we were serious contenders.

I also remember Frank McGee I’m the Mirror (IIRC) praising us to the hilt and saying we were going to be a big force that season after we lost 1-0 at Ipswich in September that season.

[astonvilla82]

WTF's happened to Danny Mills?  Couldn't stop praising Vila tonight.

It was Danny Murphy Dave, so rest easy everyone, Danny Mills is still an absolute bellend.

Danny Murphy has been complimentary about us a quite a few times.  I know he's a miserable git but tbh I think he's a decent pundit.

is it because he's got no choice now we are in the top 4  he couldn't help slagging us off every week

[Rory]

He looks like someone has put out the candles on his birthday cake by farting on them, then just as he's realising there are no more matches, that person has followed through.

Good grief! I wonder has this ever happened anywhere in the history of humanity. Probably to some poor bastard in Botswana in the early 1960s.

You haven't read Rory's admissions in the 'Naive moments' thread?

It was VERY naive of me to fart on that cake. I see that now.

[kippaxvilla2]

Danny Kelly is a very decent broadcaster.

[pauliewalnuts]

Danny Kelly is a very decent broadcaster.

I used to like listening to him and Danny Baker, but the last few years, DK has had a serious "never knowing when to shut the fuck up and let someone else speak for a change" problem.

[RamboandBruno]

Listening to Hawksbee and Jacobs with Danny Kelly this afternoon I noted that the tone is slightly changing towards the Villa now that we are no longer the soft and cuddly hard luck well played didn't deserve to lose type of team. I think there are two Spurs and a chelsea fan in that trio and Spurs  guys couldn't understand why they didn't win and Chelsea fans  said "there is nothing much about the Villa, saw them win at our place and the main difference is Villa have a goal scorer nothing else"

You can tell they don't like it up em, as Corporal Jones would say.

i don't know who he is but without doing any further research he sounds like a bell end

Probably best to do the research then. Danny Kelly is fine and Hawksby and Jacobs are decent broadcasters. They are normally even handed, though Andy Jacobs (Chelsea) has said a few times over last month or so he doesn’t think Villa are anything special. To be fair today Kelly was a bit twitched, admitted we are a good side but said the Cash foul changed the game. Hawksbey the other spurs fan was a lot more even handed.

[olaftab]

You are right about those 3 and  do like listening to them. I think the Spurs lads were being brave  and protecting their plucky effort despite 115 million injuries. Jacobs is desperately trying to make Pochettino as the saviour and hates it as he keeps stalling.

[Footy-Vill]

Jermaine Jenas on BBC Sport after Villa beat Spurs.

"I certainly think they will finish above Villa, who I did not think were that impressive on Sunday - they played against a second-string Spurs side and only just got over the line"

Simple thinking that One Game defines a season. It's a One show thing.

[taylorsworkrate]

Jermaine Jenas on BBC Sport after Villa beat Spurs.

"I certainly think they will finish above Villa, who I did not think were that impressive on Sunday - they played against a second-string Spurs side and only just got over the line"

Simple thinking that One Game defines a season. It's a One show thing.

Its a ludicrous statement to make. That "second string" Tottenham team was assembled at a cost of over 70 million quid more than the team we put out, and would still be the envy of pretty much every team in the bottom half of the table

[LeeB]

They had a centre half with 49 England caps sat on the bench.

[Footy-Vill]

From what I saw on Motd2 Murphy and Jenas were begrudging the defeat. Theo Walcott was excellent fun and has recent playing  insight. Certainly refreshingly so compared to serial vibe killer murphy!

[Brend'Watkins]

If Shearer was there who can be quite bland but truthful would have said it as simple as "Villa took their chances, Tottenham, who played very well overall, didn't take theirs"  That's all that's required.

As for Jenas, "I certainly think they will finish above Villa, who I did not think were that impressive on Sunday - they played against a second-string Spurs side and only just got over the line"

By that I take it that he thought we were favourites to win at the start, I very much doubt it? Winning by one goal is only just getting over the line is it?  Maybe they should put a little asterisk next to the result on the Beeb web site, Spurs 1 v Villa 2*
* = only just got over the line, not impressive. 

[dave shelley]

They had a centre half with 49 too many England caps sat on the bench.

FTFY.

[eamonn]

It's lazy to say it was a second-string side. Half of the team were regulars. Just like Mings, Moreno, Buendia and Ramsey were for us for the first 6 months of the Sultan's reign.