Aston Villa v Burnley post-match thread

[olaftab]

The team is only ever going to be as strong as its weakest links. Sadly, we have two or three of them.

That's not true. Teams do not default to that status. Teams should be coached and set up to cover for weak points.

[Risso]

I hope that Taylor is ditched now. He’s been ok this season but he was back to his goal-costing worst yesterday.

[Brassneck]

I coach an Under 11s team and am constantly telling the full backs to do everything they can to stop the cross coming in in the first place and to never turn their back on the ball. Burnley’s first goal was bad enough but the second was unforgivable, especially from Taylor.

The consistent emotion after every game is frustration. The first half was really enjoyable and McGinn was sensational. At HT everyone was saying the same thing - can we keep this up for 90 minutes and not let it slip again? Unfortunately not. Again.

Frustrating but IF we can beat Norwich, I fancy us to then beat Brighton and we’ll all be much happier going into a tough run of fixtures.

From the angle I had (viewing from the DE), for the first goal, Guilbert was initially outmusceled by Woods and then had his shirt held as Woods used it to slow Guilbert down and also enhance his own run.  After that, Burnley had the luck of the bounce in much the same way as Palace did when they scored against us.  Hindsight is a wonderful thing but there were opportunities to kick the ball out for a throw that weren't taken.  Easy to say this from row PP, I know.

[Chris Smith]

Although I agree that more could have been done to prevent the crosses both of their goals were free headers from inside the six yard box, that points to a failure of communication as much as anything else.

Otherwise there was plenty to like about the performance, particularly in the first half, but whereas a couple of weeks ago the chat was about defensive solidity but a lack of incisiveness at the other end now that seems to have reversed. I am hopeful that we’ll soon find a way of putting it all together.

[CT]

I wonder if we've lost a lot of the squad "togetherness" that was so evident last season. I know that's a bit obvious considering the amount of changes, but the management were telling us during the summer that the new lads had gelled really well.

Tyrone looks unhappy since his return from England. He doesn't seem the same player at all. Last season, that team spirit really carried us and we really need it now.

[PeterWithe]

Players are always going to be happier when they are winning, and we aren’t. I’d guess it’s as simple as that.

[andyh]

I wonder if we've lost a lot of the squad "togetherness" that was so evident last season. I know that's a bit obvious considering the amount of changes, but the management were telling us during the summer that the new lads had gelled really well.

Tyrone looks unhappy since his return from England. He doesn't seem the same player at all. Last season, that team spirit really carried us and we really need it now.

He is the same player, maybe even better than last season.
He doesn’t seem to be the same person though.

[Rudy65]

I wonder if we've lost a lot of the squad "togetherness" that was so evident last season. I know that's a bit obvious considering the amount of changes, but the management were telling us during the summer that the new lads had gelled really well.

Tyrone looks unhappy since his return from England. He doesn't seem the same player at all. Last season, that team spirit really carried us and we really need it now.

He is the same player, maybe even better than last season.
He doesn’t seem to be the same person though.

How has Tyrone changed?

[Richard E]

For all the positives yesterday, we (again) didn’t win. If we aren’t beating Burnley at home, who are we going to beat?

[Bobby Boy]

For all the positives yesterday, we (again) didn’t win. If we aren’t beating Burnley at home, who are we going to beat?

Brighton (maybe)

[brontebilly]

I hope that Taylor is ditched now. He’s been ok this season but he was back to his goal-costing worst yesterday.

Hause would add some power and height at set piece time too. We only have two players in the side any use in the air (both centre halves).

[Villa Lew]

Yes both goals we conceded were poor, but where was VAR for their 1st goal, El Ghazi was clearly elbowed in the face by Pieters and as a result had to be substituted. As for the SJM disallowed goal, while the decision in the end was right, to wait until just before the match is to restart, to wipe the goal off, is a joke.

Apart from SJM of course, looked like Targett had a good debut, hopefully his injury is not too bad and Marvelous also looked very impressive.

 

[AVH87]

I hope that Taylor is ditched now. He’s been ok this season but he was back to his goal-costing worst yesterday.

It got worse when I watched it back on MOTD. Easily done by Lowton's 'dummy' for the second, and at no point looked like he even thought he might win the header for the Rodriguez one.

Could do with an update today or tomorrow that Targett will be back Saturday.

[Risso]

I hope that Taylor is ditched now. He’s been ok this season but he was back to his goal-costing worst yesterday.

Hause would add some power and height at set piece time too. We only have two players in the side any use in the air (both centre halves).

I'm surprised we haven't seen Hause yet.  After an awful debut last season he improved no end, and in the few games he played left back he looked very good indeed.  Much more mobile up the left than Taylor.

[AVH87]

Hause would have been a good 'hauses for courses' (excuse the pun) pick against a side like Burnley, or at least a good option to have on the bench.

On the plus side Targett and Marvellous look like they have potential for us.