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Topic: Aston Villa v Burnley post-match thread (Read 34080 times)
simboy
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Re: Aston Villa v Burnley post-match thread
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Reply #180 on:
September 29, 2019, 08:29:31 AM »
Thought we were a little naive yesterday. When Rodriguez comes on it was pretty clear he was targeting Taylor in the air. Why didn’t Mings drop and cover him in the box. Engels has Wood in his pocket. That change in formation and tactics by Burley wasn’t matched by us. It cost us the game.
Don’t mind Grealish playing off the left. He offered defensive support to Targett, who is a wing back not a full back and was the most effective he’s been, this season. It allowed AEG to play down the right and, instead of cutting in, get to the by line.
I have read a lot about how “shit” Taylor is, even a couple of comments that we’d do better with 10 men. Each to their own opinion I suppose although yesterday was the first time when I can say he was at fault for any of the goals this season. He isn’t exactly dynamic going forward.
Targett clearly has hamstrings made of glass, so who else? Hause? DS doesn’t seem to want to do that. There will be a good reason. Mings and use Konsa or Hause at centre half alongside Engels?
The real positives are that the first half, Marvellous and SJM ran the game, the second half SJM drifted out a little but Nakamba was still on his game.
Think we will get a result at Norwich.
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tony scott
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Re: Aston Villa v Burnley post-match thread
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Reply #181 on:
September 29, 2019, 08:36:08 AM »
I was there yesterday, I thought ,we were out thought by Sean Dyce. I thought I wouldn’t mind 1 of their useless strikers. I find it sad we have to wait to properly celebrate a goal due to VAR. A full house against Burnley,is brilliant ,the team at the moment appear brittle, and I wonder what will happen if we can’t win one of The next two games?
I thought having JT in a coaching role would make us really strong at the back? Wesley is young I hope he can improve at the moment, we may as well stick Hause or Konsa up front ,give opposition centre backs something to do. I think Davis will give us a holding presence upfront but goals ? Answers on a postcard.
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lukey27
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Re: Aston Villa v Burnley post-match thread
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Reply #182 on:
September 29, 2019, 08:38:58 AM »
It's a bit frustrating every week to say we're nearly there, not far away, but we don't look like a doomed relegation side.
We're in every game, we just need to get ourselves over the line in the next few weeks.
Targett and Nakamba were massive plusses yesterday.
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WarszaVillan
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Re: Aston Villa v Burnley post-match thread
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Reply #183 on:
September 29, 2019, 08:44:26 AM »
Strangely, after yesterday's game I feel again pissed off and frustrated but pretty optimistic. There is so much which is good about this team and at times we play really good football. There is a pattern of play and structure in the team combined with a few players of real quality. The worry is that Wesley is not up to speed at the moment and this is hampering our play. We need to be more ruthless and take advantage when we're on top. It will become more of a worry if we don't get a win soon, because points make prizes, etc. But I do think we're nearly there to becoming a decent Premier League team. Oh and Westwood doesn't do floaty corners any more and looks a competent player.
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Abbeyfealeavfc
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Re: Aston Villa v Burnley post-match thread
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Reply #184 on:
September 29, 2019, 08:54:10 AM »
It's concerning that their 2nd goal came from a position between the 2 centre backs and in front of Heaton. Somebody needed to take responsibility. Heaton as the most experienced in the prem league should be organising the defence in front of him. It doesn't help that 2 players allowed the cross to come in. Knowing that the burnley manager changed his formation, it would be interesting to know what kind of inside info came from Heaton regarding burnley tactics. Burnley's approach to the game should have come as no surprise, yet it seemed like we didn't react quickly enough in the 2nd half and when we did it seemed to play into their hands eg Taylor for Targett.
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martyn ellis
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Re: Aston Villa v Burnley post-match thread
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Reply #185 on:
September 29, 2019, 08:56:29 AM »
We can all accept that some of the football we play has been excellent. We can also accept that the ugly side of the game, where we have to battle and stay on top of things and avoid the flakiness that has lost us 8 points already this season, is something we haven't yet mastered. Although I have been critical of the way Burnley approached the game yesterday (not exactly entertaining), we have to admit that this is the side of the game they have mastered - and we haven't.
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ROBBO
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Re: Aston Villa v Burnley post-match thread
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Reply #186 on:
September 29, 2019, 09:00:31 AM »
Jack needs to take pace of the ball when he shoots everything going skywards at the moment.
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danno
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Reply #187 on:
September 29, 2019, 09:06:21 AM »
The most disappointing thing about yesterday (aside from the result) was that we still conceded so cheaply even after sacrificing a forward and bolstering midfield.
I'd kidded myself after previous games that we were far too open, and that was why we were so porous.
Wesley was crap but even so, having to score three in a game to put away Burnley and Bournemouth? That's just not on.
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PeterWithe
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Re: Aston Villa v Burnley post-match thread
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Reply #188 on:
September 29, 2019, 09:07:38 AM »
After watching the goals again they really are bad defending from pretty much everyone involved, for a player of Taylor’s experience unforgivable.
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London Villan
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Re: Aston Villa v Burnley post-match thread
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Reply #189 on:
September 29, 2019, 09:14:44 AM »
We’ve been the better team for long periods in almost every game this season. It’s the savvy-ness and concentration we need to improve on. We aren’t adrift, we have some decent players, we can do this.
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Clampy
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Re: Aston Villa v Burnley post-match thread
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Reply #190 on:
September 29, 2019, 09:21:06 AM »
I thought we played reasonably well overall. Switched off for their second goal which was disappointing but again it's a game we should have won because I don't think Burnley were that great really.
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ROBBO
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Re: Aston Villa v Burnley post-match thread
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Reply #191 on:
September 29, 2019, 09:26:45 AM »
The main positive is that we have been competitive in all games bar one hate to think of us losing JM to injury he is by far our most important player.
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Re: Aston Villa v Burnley post-match thread
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Reply #192 on:
September 29, 2019, 09:28:15 AM »
The worst part of the last few weeks has been losing matches and points from winning positions. That always feels worse.
I am currently consoling myself by telling myself that it’s easier to learn how to KEEP a lead than to learn how to get one in the first place. We are clearly doing something right to get the leads in the first place, so hopefully Dean will sort out the problems in keeping them. I hope I’m right.
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Re: Aston Villa v Burnley post-match thread
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Reply #193 on:
September 29, 2019, 09:29:15 AM »
Quote from: Meanwood Villa on September 28, 2019, 10:56:35 PM
I'd like it more if we were actually 17th!
I'd like it more if were 1st.
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Marlon From Bearwood
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Reply #194 on:
September 29, 2019, 09:29:36 AM »
I coach an Under 11s team and am constantly telling the full backs to do everything they can to stop the cross coming in in the first place and to never turn their back on the ball. Burnley’s first goal was bad enough but the second was unforgivable, especially from Taylor.
The consistent emotion after every game is frustration. The first half was really enjoyable and McGinn was sensational. At HT everyone was saying the same thing - can we keep this up for 90 minutes and not let it slip again? Unfortunately not. Again.
Frustrating but IF we can beat Norwich, I fancy us to then beat Brighton and we’ll all be much happier going into a tough run of fixtures.
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