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Re: Mahmoud Hassan (Trezeguet) - Signed
« Reply #525 on: August 02, 2020, 08:46:29 AM »
And that’s why these stats are pointless...Traore has a massively bigger impact on a game when he comes on than Trezuget.
To be fair, Traore has had somewhat longer to 'come good' in England than Trez.
I don't see the raw talent in Trez that Traore demonstrated but I suspect Smith will keep him as a work-in-progress.

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Re: Mahmoud Hassan (Trezeguet) - Signed
« Reply #526 on: August 02, 2020, 09:27:22 AM »
He reminds me a bit of David Odonkor. Too much pace for his own good sometimes, hence the headless chicken moments.

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Re: Mahmoud Hassan (Trezeguet) - Signed
« Reply #527 on: August 02, 2020, 09:42:53 AM »
I don't really care how quick he is or isn't, it's how effective he is or isn't.  And for most of the season he was ineffective.  Traore was like lightning when with us but produced nothing.  Defenders learned they could just let him run himself off the pitch.  I can't think of any of the goals Trezeguet ended up scoring being down to being quick - more right place right time, put it away. 
Traore became fully part of Wolves first XI this season and as a team they have not done as well as last season. He went missing in the post lockdown games, did nothing and as result his team did not qualify  even for Europa League whereas once they were tipped to make top 4.  I doubt it if Traore phenomena has any legs in the long run. (no puns intended ...honest).
Mahmoud has contributed when it mattered. Got us to the final of the League cup and saved us from relegation. And I am not a fan of his.

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Re: Mahmoud Hassan (Trezeguet) - Signed
« Reply #528 on: August 02, 2020, 09:49:45 AM »
He’s got to be worth persevering with if he wants to stay, he’s part of the reason we got out of trouble since the restart and has done well. I know he’s also part of the reason we were in trouble. Too many new players hoping to bed in from the off. Lets see if he can push on again in the next season.

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Re: Mahmoud Hassan (Trezeguet) - Signed
« Reply #529 on: August 02, 2020, 10:29:04 AM »
I have no problem with him (or AEG) as squad players. I think Trez in particular is a great option to come on against tired defenders.

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Re: Mahmoud Hassan (Trezeguet) - Signed
« Reply #530 on: August 02, 2020, 02:44:12 PM »
His instinctive finishing helped us avoid relegation.  I can't think of many other contributions he's made coming from deeper or out wide with the ball.  No crosses that turn the defence and invite someone to get a toe or head on them (in fact very few crosses that beat the first man at all from what I recall), no killer through balls that I can remember,  few if any vital interceptions,  very little creative interplay with other forwards to open up a defence.  When he has been played in thanks to his pace he puts his head down and blasts his shot straight at the keeper at chest height - he did exactly this at both Arsenal and Spurs away.  In contrast, as well as a few important goals I can recall several inviting crosses and a fair amount of good interplay with Grealish etc. from AEG - and I don't think he's good enough either.    There may be something there with Trezeguet that will improve with good coaching and adjusting to the intensity of the PL, but we're not renowned for improving players, he's no youngster, and we can't wait around for him to adjust and improve enough to make it worth it.   

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Re: Mahmoud Hassan (Trezeguet) - Signed
« Reply #531 on: August 02, 2020, 02:52:31 PM »
His instinctive finishing helped us avoid relegation.  I can't think of many other contributions he's made coming from deeper or out wide with the ball.  No crosses that turn the defence and invite someone to get a toe or head on them (in fact very few crosses that beat the first man at all from what I recall), no killer through balls that I can remember,  few if any vital interceptions,  very little creative interplay with other forwards to open up a defence.  When he has been played in thanks to his pace he puts his head down and blasts his shot straight at the keeper at chest height - he did exactly this at both Arsenal and Spurs away.  In contrast, as well as a few important goals I can recall several inviting crosses and a fair amount of good interplay with Grealish etc. from AEG - and I don't think he's good enough either.    There may be something there with Trezeguet that will improve with good coaching and adjusting to the intensity of the PL, but we're not renowned for improving players, he's no youngster, and we can't wait around for him to adjust and improve enough to make it worth it.

Agreed. El-Ghazi is clearly a better footballer. Trez did provide one killer cross for McGinn’s headed goal, can’t remember who that was against now. I’d be happy to keep both as squad players.

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Re: Mahmoud Hassan (Trezeguet) - Signed
« Reply #532 on: August 02, 2020, 03:00:56 PM »
The McGinn goal was Burnley at home, I think.

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Re: Mahmoud Hassan (Trezeguet) - Signed
« Reply #533 on: August 02, 2020, 03:52:59 PM »
I think we'll cash in on him given he upped his value in last few weeks and seems he's still well thought of in Turkey. Keep AEG as a squad option.

I'd cash in while his stock is high. I think we're stuck with AEG, I can't see anybody interested to part with money for him. He'll probably spend the rest of his contract sitting on the bench until January then out on loan in Europe.

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Re: Mahmoud Hassan (Trezeguet) - Signed
« Reply #534 on: August 02, 2020, 03:58:15 PM »
I think we'll cash in on him given he upped his value in last few weeks and seems he's still well thought of in Turkey. Keep AEG as a squad option.

I'd cash in while his stock is high. I think we're stuck with AEG, I can't see anybody interested to part with money for him. He'll probably spend the rest of his contract sitting on the bench until January then out on loan in Europe.

I’d agree in getting rid of one or the other and then getting an upgrade (Benrahma) on the one who stays.

It’s a tough one. But Trez, despite the three late, and vital goals, was mainly awful, beyond awful. I’d agree and cash in while we can.

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Re: Mahmoud Hassan (Trezeguet) - Signed
« Reply #535 on: August 02, 2020, 04:05:59 PM »
What we do not know for sure is if Benrahma is actually an upgrade until he plays consistenly at the PL level. We all know it's one thing looking great against Championship level defenders but another to make that leap to the top level. Not saying he's not able to make that jump but it's still a risk to splash out what could be 20M plus on a player that just isn't proven against the best defenders in English football.

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Re: Mahmoud Hassan (Trezeguet) - Signed
« Reply #536 on: August 02, 2020, 04:13:20 PM »
What we do not know for sure is if Benrahma is actually an upgrade until he plays consistenly at the PL level. We all know it's one thing looking great against Championship level defenders but another to make that leap to the top level. Not saying he's not able to make that jump but it's still a risk to splash out what could be 20M plus on a player that just isn't proven against the best defenders in English football.

A player proven at Premier League level will cost a lot more than £20 million. You pays yer money...
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Re: Mahmoud Hassan (Trezeguet) - Signed
« Reply #537 on: August 02, 2020, 04:13:55 PM »
What we do not know for sure is if Benrahma is actually an upgrade until he plays consistenly at the PL level. We all know it's one thing looking great against Championship level defenders but another to make that leap to the top level. Not saying he's not able to make that jump but it's still a risk to splash out what could be 20M plus on a player that just isn't proven against the best defenders in English football.

Like with Grealish, I don't think there's much doubt that he can cut it at a level above. I fear we should've bought him last year as there'll be bigger fish ahead of us who'll want him.

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Re: Mahmoud Hassan (Trezeguet) - Signed
« Reply #538 on: August 02, 2020, 04:15:11 PM »
What we do not know for sure is if Benrahma is actually an upgrade until he plays consistenly at the PL level. We all know it's one thing looking great against Championship level defenders but another to make that leap to the top level. Not saying he's not able to make that jump but it's still a risk to splash out what could be 20M plus on a player that just isn't proven against the best defenders in English football.

Well I'd say he looks better at Championshiplevel than El Ghazi ever did.  He's faster and able to beat a man more easily for a start.

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Re: Mahmoud Hassan (Trezeguet) - Signed
« Reply #539 on: August 02, 2020, 04:16:41 PM »
What we do not know for sure is if Benrahma is actually an upgrade until he plays consistenly at the PL level. We all know it's one thing looking great against Championship level defenders but another to make that leap to the top level. Not saying he's not able to make that jump but it's still a risk to splash out what could be 20M plus on a player that just isn't proven against the best defenders in English football.

Like with Grealish, I don't think there's much doubt that he can cut it at a level above. I fear we should've bought him last year as there'll be bigger fish ahead of us who'll want him.

Anf of course, if Brentford win the final, the need to sell him will be massively diminished.

 


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