Mahmoud Hassan (Trezeguet) - SOLD

[UK Redsox]

apparently recorded as the third fastest player in the PL after Adama Traore and Greenwood

That sounds crazy...wasn’t Hutton supposed to be one of the fastest in the Premier too? I think there’s something wrong with their clocks.

Hutton always seemed faster going forward!

That's because he just came flying out of defence and charged forward, without much appreciation for what else was going on, until he was tackled or just lost the ball.

It worked.........once

[Dave]

apparently recorded as the third fastest player in the PL after Adama Traore and Greenwood

That sounds crazy...wasn’t Hutton supposed to be one of the fastest in the Premier too? I think there’s something wrong with their clocks.

It records the quickest that they ran at some point in any match during the season. He was fourth after the two above and Kyle Walker who was first.

Shane Long and Phil Foden are also in the top ten, which probably shoes it doesn't really say how fast you are in any way that matters.

No mention of Engels?

He was 12th, just behind Ashley Westwood.

[LeeB]

apparently recorded as the third fastest player in the PL after Adama Traore and Greenwood

That sounds crazy...wasn’t Hutton supposed to be one of the fastest in the Premier too? I think there’s something wrong with their clocks.

It records the quickest that they ran at some point in any match during the season. He was fourth after the two above and Kyle Walker who was first.

Shane Long and Phil Foden are also in the top ten, which probably shoes it doesn't really say how fast you are in any way that matters.

No mention of Engels?

He was 12th, just behind Ashley Westwood.

Out of 11?

[Footy-Vill]

Trezeguet hit a top speed of 23.36mph against Liverpool in July.
I said how quick he was and that often got him a place in the team.
Also had the inklings , and stated, he would have a big say in our season - he did.
One thing of note is he hasn't hit the consistency of merit we all hoped for.
Sometimes he plays like on a  fast forward pressed button but earned his right to be part of next season for me on what offered over season and especially coming up with goals.
Hoping progresses on at villa so we could give him the footballing equivalent of the Order of Honor Star. Suso at least never sold us down the Nile with Trez showing up (albeit with mighty inconsistencies)

[Smithy]

Just seen that news that he was joint third for top speed in a premier league match this season.  I'm a little bit stunned to be honest, he's never struck me as particularly fast.  Maybe it's just the rapid acceleration that he lacks? The thing that makes you 'look' fast? He doesn't seem the blast past people, but maybe when he gets going he's more than rapid enough?

[ktvillan]

He's poked/stabbed/guided a few vital goals in.  That's all.  Some very important goals towards the end but his general play has been consistently dreadful. With better wise forwards than him and AEG we may never have been in the relegation zone to start with. He reminds me of Gabby, scores some important goals but does little else. Except he does less than Gabby.  He may have just about earned himself another chance with the recent goals but for me he really isn't at the level we need.  I reckon he's one of the main reasons Suso got the Spanish archer. 

[Toronto Villa]

He’s still a lot decent back up player at this level and he became much more effective at the end getting into really good positions, scoring critical goals. By comparison AEG really tailed off. Overall no issue keeping both but only as squad players only. We need much better starting options.

[ktvillan]

I don't really care how quick he is or isn't, it's how effective he is or isn't.  And for most of the season he was ineffective.  Traore was like lightning when with us but produced nothing.  Defenders learned they could just let him run himself off the pitch.  I can't think of any of the goals Trezeguet ended up scoring being down to being quick - more right place right time, put it away. 

[rougegorge]

I don't really care how quick he is or isn't, it's how effective he is or isn't.  And for most of the season he was ineffective.  Traore was like lightning when with us but produced nothing.  Defenders learned they could just let him run himself off the pitch.  I can't think of any of the goals Trezeguet ended up scoring being down to being quick - more right place right time, put it away.

He scored 4 significant goals, one which led us to a cup final and the other 3 helped us avoid relegation.  So I am very grateful from that perspective alone and he tries hard as well.

However, I agree that he didn't make an impact in a lot of games. If we are going to avoid scrabbling around at the bottom, then he wouldn't be at the forefront of the plans.

[PaulWinch again]

I don't really care how quick he is or isn't, it's how effective he is or isn't.  And for most of the season he was ineffective.  Traore was like lightning when with us but produced nothing.  Defenders learned they could just let him run himself off the pitch.  I can't think of any of the goals Trezeguet ended up scoring being down to being quick - more right place right time, put it away. 

Not saying Trezeguet either has the talent nor the potential for growth that Traore has/does, but Traore was a prime example of why you don’t leap to judgement on a player. As I say clearly Trez is older and doesn’t have that ability, but perhaps he could learn to harness his pace to add to his game.

[Toronto Villa]

Statistically Trez and Traore have similarities. Trezegeut played 41 games in all competitions, scoring 6, with 2 assists. Traore played 52 games (13 in Europe) scoring 7 with 12 assists. The last stat is the big difference that he was far more effective creative chances for others, 12 that were converted. And therein lies another important detail. We had the worst forwards in the division. So even if he created more chances, nobody would have put them away. Imagine us with Raul Jimenez up front vs Wes, Samatta or KD. So while I would be mental to suggest Trez is as good as Traore, I don’t think he’s as bad as he’s made out given what he had to work with in his first PL season.

[SoccerHQ]

Not much to Trez's overall game but he'll certainly leave with my best wishes with that scoring run in.

Think it's worth remembering he's not that young anymore (for a footballer), 26 in October so you'd expect a more rounded player by now. Adama was 19 when he played for us and we've seen Luiz improve as the season went on.

I think we'll cash in on him given he upped his value in last few weeks and seems he's still well thought of in Turkey. Keep AEG as a squad option.

[thick_mike]

Statistically Trez and Traore have similarities. Trezegeut played 41 games in all competitions, scoring 6, with 2 assists. Traore played 52 games (13 in Europe) scoring 7 with 12 assists. The last stat is the big difference that he was far more effective creative chances for others, 12 that were converted. And therein lies another important detail. We had the worst forwards in the division. So even if he created more chances, nobody would have put them away. Imagine us with Raul Jimenez up front vs Wes, Samatta or KD. So while I would be mental to suggest Trez is as good as Traore, I don’t think he’s as bad as he’s made out given what he had to work with in his first PL season.

And that’s why these stats are pointless...Traore has a massively bigger impact on a game when he comes on than Trezuget.

[Toronto Villa]

I’ve not said that Traore doesn’t have a greater impact. He has incredible instant acceleration which sets him apart from almost every other winger. And he has better players around him also to take advantage of that. But there is also a reason he often is used as an impact sub because he is at his most lethal later in games when defences are tired. But the stats aren’t pointless. They only reveal a part of any story.

[dave17]

I’ve not said that Traore doesn’t have a greater impact. He has incredible instant acceleration which sets him apart from almost every other winger. And he has better players around him also to take advantage of that. But there is also a reason he often is used as an impact sub because he is at his most lethal later in games when defences are tired. But the stats aren’t pointless. They only reveal a part of any story.

Traore looks like a smart footballer with the physical attitudes to spare. Fair play to wolves in their development of him. Stats aside trez scored some really key goals for us but if the two I’d take the former villa player. I feel dead inside after complimenting wolves.