I'd put Trezeguets greed higher up the list of reasons to boil my piss than Luiz's miss, was never gonna get a shot on target, the tube.
Quote from: ktvillan on February 18, 2020, 11:08:10 AMNot sure why Engels is defended so much, it's not the first time he's been at fault when we've conceded goals either - see Arsenal away, and wasn't it him looking like he was running through deep water trying to catch Vardy in the Leicester debacle? Compare and contrast to some people vilifying Drinkwater, with one person even trying to blame him for both first half goals. Reasons might include him being our player, relatively young, in his first season in the league, and still on less money than the 1/2 salary we are paying Drinky.
Not sure why Engels is defended so much, it's not the first time he's been at fault when we've conceded goals either - see Arsenal away, and wasn't it him looking like he was running through deep water trying to catch Vardy in the Leicester debacle? Compare and contrast to some people vilifying Drinkwater, with one person even trying to blame him for both first half goals.
Quote from: nigel on February 19, 2020, 08:22:41 AMQuote from: Risso on February 18, 2020, 09:24:22 AMTo be honest, Luiz's miss was every bit as bad as Engels' mistake. I actually felt sorry for Luiz.Great contact, keeper just throws himself and gets lucky.If only he’d taken a leaf out of Peter Withe’s book and shinned itSo doni. Keeper got lucky.i am more angry at trezuget for not putting luiz through and being greddy with that horrible attempt by him.Rely dont rate trez. Think he is a pretty average player and makes so many poor decisons in games.When i saw the way that dutch player spurs had used his pace to cause us problems compared to trez who is quick as him shows you the level of the players. Trez is woeful and i would get rid of him in the summer.
Quote from: Risso on February 18, 2020, 09:24:22 AMTo be honest, Luiz's miss was every bit as bad as Engels' mistake. I actually felt sorry for Luiz.Great contact, keeper just throws himself and gets lucky.If only he’d taken a leaf out of Peter Withe’s book and shinned it
To be honest, Luiz's miss was every bit as bad as Engels' mistake.
Engels is 25 so let's not pretend he's a raw youth. They are all our players while they are in our shirts and on the pitch. Not sure why you would think being on loan would be a good reason for it being open season re criticism. Comparative wages are irrelevant even assuming you know how much each of them is getting from Villa. I have no idea and don't really care. None of the above excuses two glaring errors that threw the game away, compared to the vilification Drinkwater is getting.
If there is one signing that does deserve incredulity it is Trezeguet. He's manage to, literally, scuff a couple of goals but otherwise I am baffled by what he's supposed to be or supposed to offer.
Quote from: Demitri_C on February 19, 2020, 09:51:28 AMQuote from: nigel on February 19, 2020, 08:22:41 AMQuote from: Risso on February 18, 2020, 09:24:22 AMTo be honest, Luiz's miss was every bit as bad as Engels' mistake. I actually felt sorry for Luiz.Great contact, keeper just throws himself and gets lucky.If only he’d taken a leaf out of Peter Withe’s book and shinned itSo doni. Keeper got lucky.i am more angry at trezuget for not putting luiz through and being greddy with that horrible attempt by him.Rely dont rate trez. Think he is a pretty average player and makes so many poor decisons in games.When i saw the way that dutch player spurs had used his pace to cause us problems compared to trez who is quick as him shows you the level of the players. Trez is woeful and i would get rid of him in the summer. If there is one signing that does deserve incredulity it is Trezeguet. He's manage to, literally, scuff a couple of goals but otherwise I am baffled by what he's supposed to be or supposed to offer.
Quote from: ktvillan on February 20, 2020, 12:14:28 AMQuote from: Demitri_C on February 19, 2020, 09:51:28 AMQuote from: nigel on February 19, 2020, 08:22:41 AMQuote from: Risso on February 18, 2020, 09:24:22 AMTo be honest, Luiz's miss was every bit as bad as Engels' mistake. I actually felt sorry for Luiz.Great contact, keeper just throws himself and gets lucky.If only he’d taken a leaf out of Peter Withe’s book and shinned itSo doni. Keeper got lucky.i am more angry at trezuget for not putting luiz through and being greddy with that horrible attempt by him.Rely dont rate trez. Think he is a pretty average player and makes so many poor decisons in games.When i saw the way that dutch player spurs had used his pace to cause us problems compared to trez who is quick as him shows you the level of the players. Trez is woeful and i would get rid of him in the summer. If there is one signing that does deserve incredulity it is Trezeguet. He's manage to, literally, scuff a couple of goals but otherwise I am baffled by what he's supposed to be or supposed to offer. I wouldn't call his last minute winner in the semi final a scuff.
Quote from: The Edge on February 20, 2020, 07:28:31 AMQuote from: ktvillan on February 20, 2020, 12:14:28 AMQuote from: Demitri_C on February 19, 2020, 09:51:28 AMQuote from: nigel on February 19, 2020, 08:22:41 AMQuote from: Risso on February 18, 2020, 09:24:22 AMTo be honest, Luiz's miss was every bit as bad as Engels' mistake. I actually felt sorry for Luiz.Great contact, keeper just throws himself and gets lucky.If only he’d taken a leaf out of Peter Withe’s book and shinned itSo doni. Keeper got lucky.i am more angry at trezuget for not putting luiz through and being greddy with that horrible attempt by him.Rely dont rate trez. Think he is a pretty average player and makes so many poor decisons in games.When i saw the way that dutch player spurs had used his pace to cause us problems compared to trez who is quick as him shows you the level of the players. Trez is woeful and i would get rid of him in the summer. If there is one signing that does deserve incredulity it is Trezeguet. He's manage to, literally, scuff a couple of goals but otherwise I am baffled by what he's supposed to be or supposed to offer. I wouldn't call his last minute winner in the semi final a scuff. I watched it back a few days ago, it was a much better goal than I thought at the time.
Back to Engels, I just don't think he has the pace to play in back three. Maybe in a deep defending back four where he has cover, but playing in a back three means he will have to cover quite a bit of space and he just doesn't look like he has the legs to do it. We looked in trouble anytime the ball went in behind him against Spurs.