VAR

[charlatan]

When I reffed US high school "soccer" there was a signal for each type of foul (push, trip, obstruction, etc.) and for when you were stopping the clock (which was sometimes operated by the scoreboard operator). There wasn't a way of explaining why you'd sent someone who hadn't committed a foul off though.

[amfy]

To be fair I don’t think they have explained i decisions in the Women’s World Cup. They’ve just announced their decision, and the overall end result is no different to a screen announcement.

[Somniloquism]

Yes, it would have been nice to know why James initial 2nd goal was chalked off specifically. I know Bronze was offside when the high ball went into the box, but she actually walked back several yards to be onside when the ball came back to her. Have they removed "phases" from play, did they decide the defender played it under pressure under the "Mings" rule or something else?

[devilla]

To be fair I don’t think they have explained i decisions in the Women’s World Cup. They’ve just announced their decision, and the overall end result is no different to a screen announcement.

Good point. Wouldn't it be great though?

[Legion]

Another clanger dropped this evening?

[Rudy65]

Yep. Penalty all day long

[AV84]

I mentioned it in the other games thread but it always makes me laugh when football takes something that's already in place in other sports, and leaves out all the parts that make it work in those sports, and then act like it's a learning curve, or will take time to bed in or whatever other nonsense they come up with.

[simboy]

Football use the term “VAR” as a cop out. In reality the decision last night was made by three blokes sitting in a van watching the game on tv.  It was a terrible call but to dehumanise it by calling it VAR’s fault is saying, it’s not really the fault of the PL or match officials … and of course our game is fair, unbiased.

The offside technology used at the World Cup wasn’t taken up by the PL. it left less room for “error” and decisions to be made quicker.

Im with AV84. Take a technology that works well in other sports, mess it up, blame the technology.

[Gareth]

I said it on the other games thread but the new rules and VAR are used as a smokescreen to mask the fact the officials are not improving in any way.  There is no need to change the rules every season, just keep it the same for 2/3 years and then take away the excuse.  At the moment PGMOL will be loving every conversation being about injury time, bookings, 30 second off field rules rather than the ability of the officials.

VAR does what they want it to do…it’s the humans using it that are completely at fault and the humans that define the rules it is used for that are also at fault.

The ‘clear and obvious’ cop out that they conveniently used last night either applies to everything or nothing and shouldn’t be used to excuse rank incompetence.

I also think the pundits and commentators are at fault, never do you hear them call out the toe nail offsides as being completely fraudulent, as is my biggest bugbear they have no tech that tells them with 100% accuracy the moment the ball is played to ensure they draw the lines on the right frame.  If you can’t prove one you have to have tolerance in the end result.

[Exeter 77]

I've always thought that PGMOL don't want VAR so are operating it as poorly as possible.

[Gareth]

I've always thought that PGMOL don't want VAR so are operating it as poorly as possible.

I think initially that was right, now I think they like the excuse.

Personally I don’t think the VAR should just be a referee on a day off from running around…it’s a specific role and as such should be full time VAR job to build competence.

[Exeter 77]

I've mentioned before I'd like to see PGMOL disbanded and overseas officials brought into the Premier League while a new organisation is set up.

[Small Rodent]

I've always thought that PGMOL don't want VAR so are operating it as poorly as possible.

I think initially that was right, now I think they like the excuse.

Personally I don’t think the VAR should just be a referee on a day off from running around…it’s a specific role and as such should be full time VAR job to build competence.

VAR should be run by tech nerds with absolutely no interest in football at all.

[Gareth]

I've mentioned before I'd like to see PGMOL disbanded and overseas officials brought into the Premier League while a new organisation is set up.

Think if Howard Webb can’t be an improvement on that clown Riley then you maybe right though it’s kind of saying PL is more important than other leagues. 

Perhaps if England / Spain / Germany / France & Italy all got together and formed a joint group of officials to work across the five leagues might work

[Flamingo Lane]

The only conclusion I can draw from last night's decision not to give a penalty to Wolves is that it was the one that the officials on the pitch and at Stockley Park wanted to make, there being no objective evidence that could possibly justify it.