Quote from: kippaxvilla2 on November 14, 2019, 07:21:33 PMAnyone hear Purslow on the radio earlier? The PL big wigs have had a meeting with Riley’s lot and made it clear how pissed off they are and want changes in speed of decision making, communication to the fans and videos of the incidents being looked at. Christian comes across so well it must be said. Glad he’s our CEO.Hopefully referees being told to use pitchside monitors as well.
Anyone hear Purslow on the radio earlier? The PL big wigs have had a meeting with Riley’s lot and made it clear how pissed off they are and want changes in speed of decision making, communication to the fans and videos of the incidents being looked at. Christian comes across so well it must be said. Glad he’s our CEO.
It was clear and obvious that it was scored against Spurs.
Quote from: London Villan on November 14, 2019, 07:31:03 PMThe big point was about the spontaneity of celebration, which is the heart of the game, being killed. It's the number one reason why i believe var will ultimitely fail. I am also of the opinion that it's been deliberately sabotaged by the referees. The game belongs to the clubs and the fans not the bloody refs. They should be held responsible for this current fuckfest. What's to stop the PL setting up a kind of refereeing training centre? Train up some new guys to a high standard and get rid of the current crop? After all not one was adjudged good enough for the last world cup.
The big point was about the spontaneity of celebration, which is the heart of the game, being killed.
Quote from: The Edge on November 14, 2019, 09:13:14 PMQuote from: London Villan on November 14, 2019, 07:31:03 PMThe big point was about the spontaneity of celebration, which is the heart of the game, being killed. It's the number one reason why i believe var will ultimitely fail. I am also of the opinion that it's been deliberately sabotaged by the referees. The game belongs to the clubs and the fans not the bloody refs. They should be held responsible for this current fuckfest. What's to stop the PL setting up a kind of refereeing training centre? Train up some new guys to a high standard and get rid of the current crop? After all not one was adjudged good enough for the last world cup. Oh, VAR Will not 'fail' - the genie is out of the bottle, and VAR will prevail - the issue is in what format the technology will ultimately be used. As I said on the previous page, the problem is with its application and - perhaps more importantly - with the concept that referees should judge whether to apply the rules or not: I think our Friend deliberately blew his whistle at CP in order not to have to go through a VAR Appeal, and that judgement call makes me very cynical. My cynicism was deepened against Liverpool, when VAR checked for a penalty after having already booked Mane for diving (how weird was that?!).
I was reluctant to post this as I expect to be shot down in flames but it has been nagging at me. At the Liverpool game I was on the front row of Trinity Middle right behind the ref assistant when he flagged Firmino offside. He looked well off and around me fans were wondering what VAR was checking. I suspect that the freeze frame was before the ball was played and before he moved offside.
Quote from: Scratchins on November 16, 2019, 08:14:59 AMI was reluctant to post this as I expect to be shot down in flames but it has been nagging at me. At the Liverpool game I was on the front row of Trinity Middle right behind the ref assistant when he flagged Firmino offside. He looked well off and around me fans were wondering what VAR was checking. I suspect that the freeze frame was before the ball was played and before he moved offside.That hits the nail on the head for me. The offside rule is as follows "if an attacking player is deemed to be in front of the last defender WHEN THE BALL IS PLAYED he will be judged to be offside" How can they give a player offside for the width of his boot leather when they can't tell the precise moment the ball leaves the pasding players boot? It simply can't be that accurate. It's total nonsense and i'm waiting for a club to challenge this when a goal is disallowed for such a fine margin which costs that club dearly.
Is there anyone on here, or anyone who has spoken to another football fan, who would currently give VAR 7/10? I think this clearly demonstrates how out of touch these tw*ts really are.Thanks to the poster for pointing out that Jack is booked for diving, so can't be checked on VAR, while Mane is booked for diving, and the decision is duly checked by VAR.Two completely different approaches to identical situations. it would be nice to put it down to both refs being horrendously shite/corrupt, but the system is as bad as they are -some achievement!!After Sunday, I would clone Michael Oliver and Andrew Taylor repeatedly until shite refs are driven out of the game. Pawson isn't too bad, either. Who was the ref who covered the home game against Millwall last season? He was very good.Anyone else think of any refs who would make the quality cut?
Quote from: Scratchins on November 16, 2019, 08:14:59 AMI was reluctant to post this as I expect to be shot down in flames but it has been nagging at me. At the Liverpool game I was on the front row of Trinity Middle right behind the ref assistant when he flagged Firmino offside. He looked well off and around me fans were wondering what VAR was checking. I suspect that the freeze frame was before the ball was played and before he moved offside.That hits the nail on the head for me. The offside rule is as follows "if a attacking player is deemed to be in front of the last defender WHEN THE BALL IS PLAYED he will be judged to be offside" How can they give a player offside for the width of his boot leather when they can't tell the precise moment the ball leaves the pasding players boot? It simply can't be that accurate. It's total nonsense and i'm waiting for a club to challenge this when a goal is disallowed for such a fine margin which costs that club dearly.
Quote from: The Edge on November 17, 2019, 01:04:38 PMQuote from: Scratchins on November 16, 2019, 08:14:59 AMI was reluctant to post this as I expect to be shot down in flames but it has been nagging at me. At the Liverpool game I was on the front row of Trinity Middle right behind the ref assistant when he flagged Firmino offside. He looked well off and around me fans were wondering what VAR was checking. I suspect that the freeze frame was before the ball was played and before he moved offside.That hits the nail on the head for me. The offside rule is as follows "if a attacking player is deemed to be in front of the last defender WHEN THE BALL IS PLAYED he will be judged to be offside" How can they give a player offside for the width of his boot leather when they can't tell the precise moment the ball leaves the pasding players boot? It simply can't be that accurate. It's total nonsense and i'm waiting for a club to challenge this when a goal is disallowed for such a fine margin which costs that club dearly.I agree if they are downto millimeters they are in to split seconds and there is no way they can be absolutely certain.Because they have said offside has to be based on fact and not obvious error they ave fucked themselves completely. Idiots