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Online cdbullyweefan

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Re: VAR
« Reply #990 on: November 05, 2019, 09:47:37 AM »
That's what should happen, take it out of the hands of officials to decide what gets reviewed. That cheating c*** wouldn't have been able to prevent our goal at Palace, then.

I'd maybe go for one per half and an extra one for extra time then an extra one for penalties, rather than three each, but it would seem a step in the right direction.
My concern is managers would use them to disrupt the game, it would become a tactical weapon. Maybe one and if it was a correct appeal they still have it.
There is usually only one big incident.per match.

I think if you limit the number of appeals/reviews/challenges (call it what you like) it would cause less description than at present where you struggle to celebrate any goals. And they would be so valuable that I can't see bosses using them tactically. You'd be a bit daft to ask for a review of a throw in to slow down the opposition's momentum then find yourself powerless to query a massively dodgy game-changing decision later in the game.

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Re: VAR
« Reply #991 on: November 05, 2019, 10:22:37 AM »
I think that might be a better system to use you know like they do in Tennis where you get 2 challenges per set.

Instead of VAR checking every single decision, the manager gets maybe 1 challenge per half to use VAR. Every other decision is what the referee in the middle says like the good old days. If the manager uses VAR wrongly to have an offside decision checked, then 5 minutes later the ref misses a stonewall penalty but nothing can be done because the 1 VAR has already been used on an offside then tough.
I think the 2/3 challenges idea would be even worse than the fuckfest we have now. Lets say a manager thinks his team should of been awarded a pen so he appeals and it goes to var. Can you really see them overturning the original decision thus taking the managers side over their chum? It's already being run as an excersise in arse covering.It will cause carnage and you'll be seeing a regular 10/15 minutes extra time being held up on the board. All these suggestions are just a case of re-organising the deck chairs on the Titanic. The officials don't want it and are deliberately sabotaging it in my opinion. The fans don't want it. It's ruining the unbridled joy we get when celebrating a goal which is the single biggest reason for bringing us back in our droves every week. It takes away so much more than it gives. Stop this madness now. Kick it out.
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Offline mike

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Re: VAR
« Reply #992 on: November 05, 2019, 10:32:39 AM »
Fully implement VAR correctly or fully fuck it off. There is no way this half arsed version should have been introduced to the game. The match referees and VAR officials need to be fully trained, all aspects of the technology used (ie the pitch side screens), and clear rules that state when it should be used. The rules of the game also need to be updated to remove so many of the grey areas that remain to be subjective (if itís subjective then the final call has to be with the ref using the pitch side screen).

Exactly.

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Re: VAR
« Reply #993 on: November 05, 2019, 12:57:04 PM »
There's no way any manager or player should ever have the right to send anything to VAR. Many of them barely know the rules of the game and all of them are utterly, unapologetically biased. Why would I want the game delayed to tickle their egos or give vent to their peeves.

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Re: VAR
« Reply #994 on: November 05, 2019, 01:01:27 PM »
Managers dont know the rules?

Offline danno

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Re: VAR
« Reply #995 on: November 05, 2019, 01:04:34 PM »
Just have the VAR person, inform the referee when he's possibly missed something.

Referee HAS to go and double check. Referee watches replay, makes final decision.

It is nowhere near as hard as they're making it look.

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Re: VAR
« Reply #996 on: November 05, 2019, 01:09:21 PM »
Managers dont know the rules?

In terms of being able to ref the game, correct. Ask a ref. Actually, ask a manager and they'll tell you the same.

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Re: VAR
« Reply #997 on: November 05, 2019, 01:15:33 PM »
Just have the VAR person, inform the referee when he's possibly missed something.

Referee HAS to go and double check. Referee watches replay, makes final decision.

It is nowhere near as hard as they're making it look.

Which is what happened in the World Cup.

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Re: VAR
« Reply #998 on: November 05, 2019, 01:18:39 PM »
Just have the VAR person, inform the referee when he's possibly missed something.

Referee HAS to go and double check. Referee watches replay, makes final decision.

It is nowhere near as hard as they're making it look.

Which is what happened in the World Cup.

Yep, if it's here to stay then for now we may as well use the least worst version of it.

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Re: VAR
« Reply #999 on: November 05, 2019, 01:20:52 PM »
Just have the VAR person, inform the referee when he's possibly missed something.

Referee HAS to go and double check. Referee watches replay, makes final decision.

It is nowhere near as hard as they're making it look.

Which is what happened in the World Cup.

And then if the ref still isn't sure, he can ask the VAR team to have another look, at which point the "clear and obvious error" rule could apply.

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Re: VAR
« Reply #1000 on: November 05, 2019, 01:40:48 PM »
Just have the VAR person, inform the referee when he's possibly missed something.

Referee HAS to go and double check. Referee watches replay, makes final decision.

It is nowhere near as hard as they're making it look.

Which is what happened in the World Cup.

During which there were about six penalties a game. I know I'm a miserable luddite but can't they just scrap the entire thing so we can get back to celebrating goals again?

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Re: VAR
« Reply #1001 on: November 05, 2019, 06:56:30 PM »
Just have the VAR person, inform the referee when he's possibly missed something.

Referee HAS to go and double check. Referee watches replay, makes final decision.

It is nowhere near as hard as they're making it look.

Which is what happened in the World Cup.

During which there were about six penalties a game. I know I'm a miserable luddite but can't they just scrap the entire thing so we can get back to celebrating goals again?
I don't think you're being a luddite. Just because it's new technology and they've decided to use it doesn't make it right. Someone invented the Stylophone once.That got binned once everyone realised it wasn't "the future" it was actually a load of crap.
 
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Re: VAR
« Reply #1002 on: November 05, 2019, 07:02:11 PM »
Maybe it's just because England benefitted, but I kind of liked blatant grappling in the box actually being penalised in the World Cup. There were more penalties than usual but that did seem to diminish as the tournament progressed.

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Re: VAR
« Reply #1003 on: November 05, 2019, 07:39:35 PM »
Using "luddite" would imply one railing against new technology. It's not, it's barely one step removed from someone operating a vcr with a frame advance button.

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Re: VAR
« Reply #1004 on: November 05, 2019, 07:47:56 PM »
How many mistakes per game were happening to make this shite worth it? It's made the game worse, not better.

 


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