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Offline eamonn

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Re: VAR
« Reply #240 on: August 21, 2019, 08:22:39 AM »
I still think a review system will be implemented in due course. It would certainly eliminate a lot of the complaints about the current set up, it would certainly help with the flow of the game and in most cases give back the joy of scoring a goal, if the ref is happy and reviews have been used up, a goal is a fucking goal!

Our game last weekend would've been different for a start. Billings potential second yellow was not referred, even though it was a major decision and potential game changer. To refer these sorts of incidents to VAR regularly would be barmy, increasing the amount of disruption but if we had used a review, he may have been sent off. Reviews will be precious and who knows, Smith may not have used one for the Billings incident(s) but as things stand we have a hue and cry for everything and it's solving nothing.

And Ian Holloway can go and fuck himself, the galloping ignoramus.

How many "challenges" would you get a game though?  If it's more than one per team it would stop games more than VAR does now as it's average usage (which causes a stoppage) per game up to now must be less than three times.

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Re: VAR
« Reply #241 on: August 21, 2019, 08:59:06 AM »
All of Billings' subsequent challenges were right in front of the ref, and we were awarded a free kick in each instance. That he didn't get sent off was down to the referee on the day not deeming them worthy of a second yellow.

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Re: VAR
« Reply #242 on: August 21, 2019, 09:20:40 AM »
Are potential second yellow cards supposed to be reviewed or only straight reds?

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Re: VAR
« Reply #243 on: August 21, 2019, 09:35:03 AM »
All of Billings' subsequent challenges were right in front of the ref, and we were awarded a free kick in each instance. That he didn't get sent off was down to the referee on the day not deeming them worthy of a second yellow.

Yes, but the VAR ref, with the benefit of slow motion replays, may have come to a different conclusion had we been able to appeal. This is the issue with VAR, in the case of foul challenges it will boil down to opinion but you still see a VAR check for "possible red card", that's not a matter of fact at all.

VAR is meant to correct clear and obvious errors, that's what I saw on Saturday (twice).

Having said all of the above, I would accept what happened on Saturday in return for VAR being consigned to the fuckin' dustbin for evermore.

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Re: VAR
« Reply #244 on: August 21, 2019, 09:35:31 AM »
Just straight reds.

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Re: VAR
« Reply #245 on: August 21, 2019, 10:04:44 AM »
On the margin of errors issue why not represent the error on the screen as a band and if the player is ahead of the error band they are offside. If they are in the band then apply the rule like they do in cricket with Umpire's call, i.e. if they were flagged they are offside, if there was no flag they're onside.

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Re: VAR
« Reply #246 on: August 21, 2019, 10:20:50 AM »
Just straight reds.

Ta. So we can't blame VAR for the referee on Saturday being a massive bottling bottle merchant bottler.

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Re: VAR
« Reply #247 on: August 21, 2019, 10:32:44 AM »
Just straight reds.

Ta. So we can't blame VAR for the referee on Saturday being a massive bottling bottle merchant bottler.

No, he was just shit.  Hopefully he gets a telling off from the ref bosses.

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Re: VAR
« Reply #248 on: August 21, 2019, 10:33:50 AM »
Doubt it. It was only Villa he cheated.

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Re: VAR
« Reply #249 on: August 21, 2019, 11:50:56 AM »
The new handball rules are the fault of the EU, Ian Holloway said. He gets paid to air opinions like this you know.

Does that mean we can use VAR on the Irish border?

That'll make it V.A.Orr

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Re: VAR
« Reply #250 on: August 21, 2019, 11:51:24 AM »
Has the totting up procedure for persistent fouling gone out of the game this season?  you know, where the ref points to a number of areas on the pitch then reaches for the back pocket.

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Re: VAR
« Reply #251 on: August 21, 2019, 12:17:08 PM »
I've never understood why that rule is so vague. How many is "persistent"? Three, five, ten, twenty?

Pick an actual number and have somebody in the stand count how many each player has done, tell the referee by earpiece when a player needs booking.

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Re: VAR
« Reply #252 on: August 21, 2019, 12:47:32 PM »
'Persistent' usually means a number of tackles, that by themselves weren't worthy of a booking, but when considered together do. That cheating Bournemouth scrote simply commited at least 3 or 4 tackles that were worthy of a booking all day long, and the shithouse of a ref just bottled it.

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Re: VAR
« Reply #253 on: August 21, 2019, 12:54:24 PM »
I've never understood why that rule is so vague. How many is "persistent"? Three, five, ten, twenty?

Pick an actual number and have somebody in the stand count how many each player has done, tell the referee by earpiece when a player needs booking.

Two.  E.G.  a defender climbs all over an opponent, referee gives the appropriate free-kick and warns the defender if he does it again he will receive a caution for persistent infringement.  The defender does it again, the ref books him.  It doesn't happen that way normally but it can.

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Re: VAR
« Reply #254 on: August 22, 2019, 08:27:58 AM »
I've never understood why that rule is so vague. How many is "persistent"? Three, five, ten, twenty?

Pick an actual number and have somebody in the stand count how many each player has done, tell the referee by earpiece when a player needs booking.
When I reffed - at a very local level - if a team persistently fouled, I'd warn the team captain that he would receive a yellow card if it continued.
Amazingly, the captain always looked amazed when I pulled a card on him, even after making it very clear that he needed to control his team.

 


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