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Offline eamonn

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Re: VAR
« Reply #1725 on: December 07, 2020, 09:59:39 PM »
Another swindle at the Amex tonight by all accounts. No credit cards involved, thankfully.

Offline Nev

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Re: VAR
« Reply #1726 on: December 07, 2020, 10:47:20 PM »
It doesn't work.

Offline Drummond

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Re: VAR
« Reply #1727 on: December 08, 2020, 12:20:08 AM »
Another swindle at the Amex tonight by all accounts. No credit cards involved, thankfully.

You'd guess it was cold, hard cash in play wouldn't you?

What a farce. Watched it tens of times in slow motion to determine a 'clear and obvious mistake' had been made, and yet still most people seem to disagree with the outcome.

If they really must continue with it, they need to remove referees from the VAR Room and have an independent person making the decision.

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Re: VAR
« Reply #1728 on: December 08, 2020, 12:51:12 AM »
I’d do it.

I might credit really good acting, but only if there was a song and tap routine.

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Re: VAR
« Reply #1729 on: December 08, 2020, 01:29:15 AM »
I’d do it.

I might credit really good acting, but only if there was a song and tap routine.

So no change from what we have then?

Offline Colhint

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Re: VAR
« Reply #1730 on: December 08, 2020, 04:33:05 PM »
Maybe it's my memory, but before VAR there would be about 10 iffy decisions a season, now there seems to be 3 or 4 a week.

Offline villa_cads

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Re: VAR
« Reply #1731 on: December 08, 2020, 09:16:02 PM »
Maybe it's my memory, but before VAR there would be about 10 iffy decisions a season, now there seems to be 3 or 4 a week.

This is very much how I see it. There is a big difference between clear and obvious errors and the marginal calls, they really need to move a long way towards the former.

Offline ChicagoLion

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Re: VAR
« Reply #1732 on: December 09, 2020, 02:21:55 PM »
I think there was at least one (questionable) a weekend, now its every game.
The fact that they have changed the Laws to accomadate VAR as opposed to using it to to deal with clear and obvious tells you where it has gone wrong.
I have mentioned befoore, the problem starts with handing over the adjudicationof the whole process to a for profit independant company with no acccountability.

Offline chrisw1

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Re: VAR
« Reply #1733 on: December 09, 2020, 04:55:28 PM »
Offside doesn't have to be clear and obvious errors.  It's just checking what they perceive to be facts..  And now refs can look at the monitors it shouldn't really apply to penalty decisoions either.  The ref should be allowed to double check without it seeming like he's being frog marched to the naughty corner.

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Re: VAR
« Reply #1734 on: December 09, 2020, 05:46:16 PM »
Offside doesn't have to be clear and obvious errors.  It's just checking what they perceive to be facts..  And now refs can look at the monitors it shouldn't really apply to penalty decisoions either.  The ref should be allowed to double check without it seeming like he's being frog marched to the naughty corner.
When it was introduced they said it was being brought in specifically to cut out the clear and obvious errors. The goal Chelsea scored at Cardiff a while back was cited as an example of this as it was clearly a terrible decision on the day. They have fucked it up royally by getting themselves involved in being excruciatingly pedantic with it. It should have been a fantastic tool to assist referees but the way these plonkers have administered it it's become the total opposite. Heads should roll over the whole debacle but that won't happen. They will close ranks and cover each others arse.

Offline Lastfootstamper

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Re: VAR
« Reply #1735 on: December 12, 2020, 03:57:20 PM »
Sky commendably showing some self-awareness in realising that if you don't want VAR to be an endless talking point, don't endlessly talk about it. BT, take note.

Offline tomd2103

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Re: VAR
« Reply #1736 on: December 12, 2020, 04:10:43 PM »
Sky commendably showing some self-awareness in realising that if you don't want VAR to be an endless talking point, don't endlessly talk about it. BT, take note.

Yeah, noticed that today. No need to be constantly saying “VAR is checking that”, as we know it will be.

Offline Ad@m

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Re: VAR
« Reply #1737 on: December 20, 2020, 08:45:44 PM »
Can I be the first to say, fuck VAR.

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Re: VAR
« Reply #1738 on: December 20, 2020, 08:49:35 PM »
Fuck it off. It is ludicrous.

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Re: VAR
« Reply #1739 on: December 20, 2020, 08:58:32 PM »
Can I be the first to say, fuck VAR.
No. There's thousands ahead of you. It a complete and utter farce.

 


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