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Offline WilliamStanding

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Re: VAR
« Reply #1305 on: August 07, 2020, 12:17:42 PM »
Not really - GK can still move along the line and step behind if he wants to leap forward- nothing really changes so not a lot to see here

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Re: VAR
« Reply #1306 on: August 07, 2020, 12:24:04 PM »
But the clarification will make a massive difference if fully enforced.  Have a look back at the shoot-out in the play-off semi-final and see the positioning of both keepers.  If this approach had applied then every single saved penalty would have had to be retaken.

EDIT - I mean every pen that wasn't scored, not necessarily saved.  To me it's just that this is again just going to introduce even more decisions for VAR to cock-up, as if it wasn't ruining enough of the game already.
« Last Edit: August 07, 2020, 12:26:14 PM by Pat Mustard »

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Re: VAR
« Reply #1307 on: August 07, 2020, 12:29:17 PM »
But those were the rules anyway, they've not changed. The issued statement is really just to point out that VAR now falls under the auspices of FIFA, and what level of intrusion we can expect away from the pitch.

I don't know how much of the Women's World Cup people saw last year, but the penalty interference from VAR was overly picky. It was, I think, used earlier in the season in the PL, but they stopped scrutiny from early in the new year. I think it's pretty clear; you cheat, you save it or clear it, it gets retaken. Player misses, you did nothing to effect or affect the miss, carry on.

But as ever with all things regulatory, we'll have to wait to see what happens when it's eventually implemented.

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Re: VAR
« Reply #1308 on: August 07, 2020, 12:46:16 PM »
But the clarification will make a massive difference if fully enforced.  Have a look back at the shoot-out in the play-off semi-final and see the positioning of both keepers.  If this approach had applied then every single saved penalty would have had to be retaken.

EDIT - I mean every pen that wasn't scored, not necessarily saved.  To me it's just that this is again just going to introduce even more decisions for VAR to cock-up, as if it wasn't ruining enough of the game already.

It would only apply to the saved penalties, not Bert's bar blazer. It'd be hard for anyone to say Johnstone had a material impact on one missing by that much!

And as for your very last point, I couldn't agree more. It's a genie that should never have been let out of its bottle, but the ever more vigilant eye of the telly camera made its arrival inevitable. And once we got to a situation where broadcasters were touting their tech to football to 'help' it enforce its own rules, it was all f***** beyond redemption.

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Re: VAR
« Reply #1309 on: August 07, 2020, 09:35:44 PM »
It seems, to me at least, that the way VAR has been constructed and applied in this country was specifically to allow the same old biased subjectivity we had previously.

Was it 20 penalties for Man Utd this season? Fuck off.

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Re: VAR
« Reply #1310 on: August 07, 2020, 09:37:51 PM »
It seems, to me at least, that the way VAR has been constructed and applied in this country was specifically to allow the same old biased subjectivity we had previously.

Was it 20 penalties for Man Utd this season? Fuck off.

That one against us is still pissing me off, even though we stayed up and I've got far more important things to think about but still, fucking hell!

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Re: VAR
« Reply #1311 on: August 07, 2020, 09:39:22 PM »
How many of them were made on a VAR decision?

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Re: VAR
« Reply #1312 on: August 07, 2020, 11:02:44 PM »
The encroachment rule for penalty kicks has always been there it's just that refs have got lazy about enforcing it. It's like the rule that goalkeepers can only have the ball in their hands for 6 seconds. That rule must be broken many times in every game but refs don't penalise it.

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Re: VAR
« Reply #1313 on: August 07, 2020, 11:20:08 PM »
I thought that rule had been dropped?

Offline edgysatsuma89

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Re: VAR
« Reply #1314 on: August 08, 2020, 11:02:05 AM »
It has been a fair few years since we have been awarded more penalties than we conceded in the Premier league so screw it... have the keepers on the 6 yard line.

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Re: VAR
« Reply #1315 on: August 08, 2020, 11:29:18 AM »
I thought that rule had been dropped?

I assumed that too, unless Ben Foster was using the new 36 second rule.

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Re: VAR
« Reply #1316 on: August 08, 2020, 12:18:32 PM »
I thought that rule had been dropped?

I assumed that too, unless Ben Foster was using the new 36 second rule.

Nope, still very much a rule:

"2. Indirect free kick
An indirect free kick is awarded if a player:
• plays in a dangerous manner
• impedes the progress of an opponent without any contact being made • is guilty of dissent, using offensive, insulting or abusive language and/or
gestures or other verbal offences
• prevents the goalkeeper from releasing the ball from the hands or kicks
or attempts to kick the ball when the goalkeeper is in the process of
releasing it
• commits any other offence, not mentioned in the Laws, for which play is
stopped to caution or send off a player
An indirect free kick is awarded if a goalkeeper, inside their penalty area, commits any of the following offences:
• controls the ball with the hand/arm for more than six seconds before releasing it
• touches the ball with the hand/arm after releasing it and before it has touched another player"

(From the FA rules section).


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Re: VAR
« Reply #1317 on: August 08, 2020, 03:22:59 PM »
It irritates me that the six second rule isn't enforced. It would make for a more entertaining spectacle much like the back pass rule does.

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Re: VAR
« Reply #1318 on: September 10, 2020, 07:31:55 PM »

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Re: VAR
« Reply #1319 on: September 12, 2020, 04:11:54 PM »
Walker peters just got sent off. It wasn’t a red in my opinion. The ref gets called over by VAR to review on the monitor. He reviewed it and overturned his own decision. I like that a lot. Assist the refs and give them a chance to make the right call.

 


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