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Offline Si

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Re: VAR
« Reply #1020 on: November 10, 2019, 09:08:27 AM »
Regarding the offside rule. I believe it should be changed in line with the ball going out if play rule. Any part of the ball on the white line, and it's still in play. Apply this to offside. Mark the centre of the defenders body.  Draw the line from that point. Any part of the strikers body that is touching or behind that line is onside. Any marginal decisions should always go to the attacking team. Could this work.

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Re: VAR
« Reply #1021 on: November 10, 2019, 09:13:57 AM »
It's all about getting the decisions right isn't it?

Football wanted it, football got it. Suck it up.

Or continue to rightly call it out when it's ruining the game and disallowing goals for ridiculous off sides?

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Re: VAR
« Reply #1022 on: November 10, 2019, 09:15:23 AM »
As far as I’m aware it seems to be working with minimum fuss in 28 other countries.


A quick bit of googling suggests it's as popular amongst match-going fans around the world as it is here. Including this goal scored during half time in Germany

At least the ref looked at the monitor, they seem incapable of doing that over here.

I've seen a few people moan about this but not sure what we would get out of it. Surely that just means it would take even longer to get a decision?

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Re: VAR
« Reply #1023 on: November 10, 2019, 09:22:33 AM »
I was watching MOTD earlier and even some players seem reluctant to celebrate now. The Newcastle player who scored the diving header was looking round just after he scored expecting it to go to VAR and the chap who scored Sheff Utd's equaliser didn't celebrate either.

Offline Lastfootstamper

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Re: VAR
« Reply #1024 on: November 10, 2019, 10:25:07 AM »
The line goes through the defender's head, they aren't filling me with confidence about how accurate they are.



Somebody onTwitter pointed out that a body part which was deemed fit for Dele Alli to score with 3 weeks ago, the shoulder, for reasons unknown isn't playing the attacker onside here.

Offline ChicagoLion

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Re: VAR
« Reply #1025 on: November 10, 2019, 10:50:15 AM »
The line goes through the defender's head, they aren't filling me with confidence about how accurate they are.


I was watching this live and they kept doing the thing with the lines and it is remarkable that they ruled it offside.

Offline thick_mike

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Re: VAR
« Reply #1026 on: November 10, 2019, 10:59:27 AM »
The line goes through the defender's head, they aren't filling me with confidence about how accurate they are.


I was watching this live and they kept doing the thing with the lines and it is remarkable that they ruled it offside.

Sorry to bring physics into it, but isn’t there a parallax problem here? The line goes along the floor, so anything on the floor is judged properly. But the defender’s head and shoulder is a distance (1.4 to 1.8m?) above the floor. Because the line isn’t square to the camera, it will make the defender’s head and shoulder look further forward than they are in reality. In other words the camera angle makes it look like the defender is playing the attacker on side, when in reality he isn’t.

It’s the sort of problem that image processing can deal with, but can’t show in a convincing photo.

By the way, this isn’t a defence of VAR, I hate the way it stifles the spontaneity of the game with a passion.

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Re: VAR
« Reply #1027 on: November 10, 2019, 11:20:58 AM »
By the way, this isn’t a defence of VAR

Sounds like one to me, pinko.

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Re: VAR
« Reply #1028 on: November 10, 2019, 10:40:54 PM »
By the way, this isn’t a defence of VAR

Sounds like one to me, pinko.
Hahaha! Caught red handed

Offline London Villan

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Re: VAR
« Reply #1029 on: November 11, 2019, 09:13:16 AM »
Did the handball in the liverpool box lead directly to the goal at the other end??

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Re: VAR
« Reply #1030 on: November 11, 2019, 09:25:44 AM »
Did the handball in the liverpool box lead directly to the goal at the other end??
Yep. And there you have it. Var still comes down to opinions. It's useless and needs to be scrapped asap. It's ruining the game, i really don't understand how people still find it a valuable asset to the game.

Offline LukeJames

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Re: VAR
« Reply #1031 on: November 11, 2019, 11:35:36 AM »
Ref watch on SSN is cringey as fuck. Rolling Dermot Gallagher out every week tieing himself into knots, car crash TV.

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Re: VAR
« Reply #1032 on: November 11, 2019, 11:56:20 AM »
Ref watch on SSN is cringey as fuck. Rolling Dermot Gallagher out every week tieing himself into knots, car crash TV.

Absolutely bollocks he just backs up his mates and blah blah blah

Offline LukeJames

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« Reply #1033 on: November 11, 2019, 11:59:36 AM »
25 minutes analysis, he argued with himself about 4 times.

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« Reply #1034 on: November 11, 2019, 12:14:30 PM »
At least we didn't get bummed by this farcical, ref ego massaging bollocks this week and just got a good old shooing like the old days.

 


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