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Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
« Reply #690 on: July 24, 2019, 10:54:13 PM »
I was 100% against ever moving, but... i bet itís been discussed. Better facilities, better public transport links, no issues with building while needing somewhere to play. Just seeing spursí new stadium has made me think about this thatís all.

Better transport links would mean NEC surely?

I know VP isn't perfect regarding that but it still has two train stations within half a mile radius and a decent bus route from city centre. If the council had shown some foresight 10 years ago you could've had tram route run down A34 or Lichfield road to add to things.

Certainly better than what Spurs have.

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Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
« Reply #691 on: July 24, 2019, 11:08:16 PM »
What about the old market site in Digbeth? Near to HS2 terminal, for our tourist fans, easy access to the shires, New Villa Park?

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Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
« Reply #692 on: July 24, 2019, 11:11:30 PM »
Digbeth is Nose country. I like it.

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Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
« Reply #693 on: July 24, 2019, 11:14:11 PM »
What about the old market site in Digbeth? Near to HS2 terminal, for our tourist fans, easy access to the shires, New Villa Park?

They were actually talking about putting a city centre park there the other week which would be nice move. I did walk past the area recently and that site is massive, could easily get a football stadium in there.

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Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
« Reply #694 on: July 25, 2019, 07:15:02 AM »
What about the old market site in Digbeth? Near to HS2 terminal, for our tourist fans, easy access to the shires, New Villa Park?

They were actually talking about putting a city centre park there the other week which would be nice move. I did walk past the area recently and that site is massive, could easily get a football stadium in there.

I went past yesterday, it really is huge, I hope they do something decent with it and not just commercial, making part of the site into a City Centre park is a must surely?

Not a place for us though, I feel that if we ever move from Aston it will be the first step on the road to becoming "just another club". The Hall, the park, the history of the serpentine and lower grounds, the approach towards the Holte Pub, the road names, even the towering and not particularly aesthetically pleasing Expressway are all part of our identity.

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Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
« Reply #695 on: July 25, 2019, 07:27:24 AM »
Land anywhere near the city centre would be too expensive and I donít see how you could accommodate the additional car parking. I also think it would extremely unlikely that the council would grant planning permission.

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Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
« Reply #696 on: July 25, 2019, 08:23:44 AM »
I canít ever see a complete relocation going down well with the fans.  I would also be concerned that we would not be able to fund transfer windows adequately, as appeared to be the case with Arsenal for a few years after their move/total rebuild.

For me and most other fans, staying put is a must.  We have the infrastructure and accessibility as shown in the past when weíve hit gates of between late 40s to 60 odd thousand.

I would be happy to somehow add 5000-10,000 by tweaking the existing ground, filling in the corners etc.  We have great land at the back of the NS and weíre possibly missing a trick by not taking advantage of it fully.  Perhaps an additional 5,000-10,000 would act as a stop gap for a while to allow time to evaluate whether a complete redevelopment of the NS and ground behind is viable.

Imagine (or dream) if we could make a real impact on the top 6 again.  50,000 gates are far from being unrealistic.  I have no idea of the revenue in comparison to initial outlay but with a rebuild NS, there is scope for more hospitality areas.  Not everyone likes hospitality but we all have to accept that itís part of modern football.

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Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
« Reply #697 on: July 25, 2019, 08:28:06 AM »
What about the old market site in Digbeth? Near to HS2 terminal, for our tourist fans, easy access to the shires, New Villa Park?

They were actually talking about putting a city centre park there the other week which would be nice move. I did walk past the area recently and that site is massive, could easily get a football stadium in there.

I went past yesterday, it really is huge, I hope they do something decent with it and not just commercial, making part of the site into a City Centre park is a must surely?

Not a place for us though, I feel that if we ever move from Aston it will be the first step on the road to becoming "just another club". The Hall, the park, the history of the serpentine and lower grounds, the approach towards the Holte Pub, the road names, even the towering and not particularly aesthetically pleasing Expressway are all part of our identity.

Spot on, Nev.

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Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
« Reply #698 on: July 25, 2019, 08:36:37 AM »
I think the new Spurs stadium has re-opened the debate for many people.

Having been there a couple of time last season I think there a few lessons to be learned.

Location, location, location - it succeeds because it's the new White Hart Lane.  Unlike the Arse.

It's got a 'home end' (where I'll be sadly on the opening day) and whips up a good atmosphere unlike other stadia.  Unlike West Ham.

They've built in a lot of great facilities and linked them to the past.  They've made it feel like a massive overhaul of the old ground not a new stadium.  To the Spuds it feels like they're 'home'.

With a bit of imagination and if needed all this could be achieved by restructuring on the current site.

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Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
« Reply #699 on: July 25, 2019, 08:48:27 AM »
I know the NS is a horribly outdated, but would a compromise be infilling the corners in that area to give an almost instant increase in capacity with minimal risk/cost?

I can't think why, but you'll find people who are against that. Probably.

Fuck that.

Villa Park is a traditional four stands English football ground.

I am happy for the entire thing to be knocked down and rebuilt if need be, but it must, if not remain four seperate stands, have a design which pays homage to that (see Sampdoria's ground when they rebuilt it for the 1990 WC, that sort of thing).

Filling in the bits around the north stand would almost certainly be structurally extremely challenging (and therefore expensive) and look shite.
I don't think we have the land foorprint to have 4 huge stands with a big enough capacity without filling in the corners.  I would have thought a horse shoewith a stand alone Holte as a focal point would work really well.

But the owners will wait to see how things eveolve over the next 12-18 months at least and I think that is absolutely the right thing to do.

On another point, I think the 7,000 waiting list is a bit of a myth.  They had to release approx the first 4,000 on the waiting list to sell the last 1,000 season tickets.  I don't think for a minute there's 7k people willing, ready and able to buy a season ticket right now.

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Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
« Reply #700 on: July 25, 2019, 09:50:12 AM »
Digbeth is Nose country.

Maybe when they're at home, for about an hour after the game. Not the other 340 or so days a year.

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Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
« Reply #701 on: July 25, 2019, 10:11:35 AM »
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For me and most other fans, staying put is a must.  We have the infrastructure and accessibility as shown in the past when weíve hit gates of between late 40s to 60 odd thousand.

I would be happy to somehow add 5000-10,000 by tweaking the existing ground, filling in the corners etc.  We have great land at the back of the NS and weíre possibly missing a trick by not taking advantage of it fully.  Perhaps an additional 5,000-10,000 would act as a stop gap for a while to allow time to evaluate whether a complete redevelopment of the NS and ground behind is viable.

Imagine (or dream) if we could make a real impact on the top 6 again.  50,000 gates are far from being unrealistic.  I have no idea of the revenue in comparison to initial outlay but with a rebuild NS, there is scope for more hospitality areas.  Not everyone likes hospitality but we all have to accept that itís part of modern football.
All well and good.
The biggest challenge VP has now is accommodating car-parking. As someone who comes in every home game form the North, I'm finding I have to arrive 2.5-3 hours ahead of kick-off to get a decent parking space.
I'd also add that I think growing the merchandising around the ground gives matchday more of a carnival 'feel' and this develops the whole experience.

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Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
« Reply #702 on: July 25, 2019, 10:49:18 AM »
Up to 1.5 hours will guarantee you a parking space where we park. Normally there are spaces at 2 pm, 10 minutes from the ground.

Obviously, as with any event, the later you leave it, the further away you will need to park.  There are literally hundreds of sites offering parking.  I would put our parking options up there with most grounds.

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Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
« Reply #703 on: July 25, 2019, 11:04:00 AM »
You can however be sat in traffic for 2 hours after a game before you even reach the motorway.

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Re: Season Tickets 2019/20
« Reply #704 on: July 25, 2019, 11:11:22 AM »
Plenty of Villa frequent Digbeth, and I've seen more opposition fans in Digbeth pubs after nose home games than the noses themselves. (When the scum last played newcastle comes immediately to mind). Remember the City is Ours.

 


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