Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread

[Clark W Griswold]

The certainty that some have that Davis and Kodjia will be of no use next season has no firm basis and is unfair. Davis is a young kid who has generally shown himself to have a decent attitude on the pitch, he looks like a handful and a good team player. He will only get better. If he'd gone out on loan and we'd have got someone in i would have been fine with it, but i'm also not too worried about him staying and being an understudy to Wesley. If someone else had come in for big money and hardly played they would probably have been unsettled anyway.
In addition we also have Kodjia who is still in his peak, he looked every bit a player that could play in the PL in his first season with us and then he got injured. He hasn't returned to his best yet but he was played out of position for the most part last season and it takes some players a while to come back fully, look at Fabian Delph.
It is possible that they could both look out of place at this level but they won't begin the season as starters anyway, the window opens again in January so it's not the end of the world. The point is that no one can know for sure as neither have had the chance to try till now.

Agree with your first paragraph, but I don't see Kodjia as a Premier League player.
I think Smith sees our attacking line-up being a combination of Wes as link-man and - at times - playing without a recognised striker; using our midfielders and wingers in more forward roles.

I dont know for certain that Kodja or Davis wont be any good in the premier league, its an opinion. Interesting that Kodja has never played in the top division, until his first appearance. Just as you dont know for certainty that they will be good enough, again your opinion, this is what these forums are for. What I do know is that I hope you are right, and I am badly wrong

I'm not saying with any certainty they will be good enough, but i can't understand why anyone can say with certainty that they won't if you consider the points i mentioned. I could understand it if talking about someone who's always been crap for us like Hogan, or even Lansbury for that matter.

[KRS]

Did that cheesy pun infested twat Gary Cotterill really just do that Drinkwater gag?! 🙈

[mr underhill]

Has Bree gone to mature at Luton?

[Smirker]

Has Bree gone to mature at Luton?

😂😂😂

[Three Spires Villa]

Any chance we can get any dosh for the outgoing players rather than giving them away?! Can BB have been on such big wages that we couldn't sell or even loan him somewhere?

Who knows, guess he was, we did pay big wages. I agree its odd but there you go...

[PeterWithesShin]

He was on approx £25k a week apparently, not a massive amount but he's got no resale value after this window with his contract being up next year so maybe both just decided it was best for both him and the club to go now rather than spend the season hardly playing.

[cdbearsfan]

So, that's our players pretty much confirmed.

Leaves us with the squad below, we need to choose twenty-five of whom at least eight must be "Home Grown". Players aged 21 or under as of 1st January 2019 don't count against the 25 so we can field as many of those as we like.

* = Home Grown
** = under-21

GOALKEEPERS
Heaton*
Steer*
Kalinic
Nyland

DEFENDERS
Guilbert
Elmohamady
Bree**
Konsa**
Engels
Mings*
Chester*
Hause*
Taylor*
Targett*

MIDFIELDERS
McGinn
Douglas Luiz**
Makamba
Lansbury*
Hourihane*
Grealish*
O'Hare**
Tshibola*

WINGERS
Trezeguet
El Ghazi
Jota

FORWARDS
Wesley
Kodjia
Davis**

29 players total, five can be discounted from the quota as under-21. Eleven "Home Grown" players so no problem there.

So yeah, basically fine. Even if Tshibola and a goalkeeper leave, as I expect. We can bring in another player in the next transfer window and up to three unless we are planning on keeping Tshibola and four goalkeepers, which seems a tad excessive.

That was a bit of a pointless exercise but killed a few work minutes as I count down to fucking off time.

[Three Spires Villa]

The certainty that some have that Davis and Kodjia will be of no use next season has no firm basis and is unfair. Davis is a young kid who has generally shown himself to have a decent attitude on the pitch, he looks like a handful and a good team player. He will only get better. If he'd gone out on loan and we'd have got someone in i would have been fine with it, but i'm also not too worried about him staying and being an understudy to Wesley. If someone else had come in for big money and hardly played they would probably have been unsettled anyway.
In addition we also have Kodjia who is still in his peak, he looked every bit a player that could play in the PL in his first season with us and then he got injured. He hasn't returned to his best yet but he was played out of position for the most part last season and it takes some players a while to come back fully, look at Fabian Delph.
It is possible that they could both look out of place at this level but they won't begin the season as starters anyway, the window opens again in January so it's not the end of the world. The point is that no one can know for sure as neither have had the chance to try till now.

Agree with your first paragraph, but I don't see Kodjia as a Premier League player.
I think Smith sees our attacking line-up being a combination of Wes as link-man and - at times - playing without a recognised striker; using our midfielders and wingers in more forward roles.

I dont know for certain that Kodja or Davis wont be any good in the premier league, its an opinion. Interesting that Kodja has never played in the top division, until his first appearance. Just as you dont know for certainty that they will be good enough, again your opinion, this is what these forums are for. What I do know is that I hope you are right, and I am badly wrong

I'm not saying with any certainty they will be good enough, but i can't understand why anyone can say with certainty that they won't if you consider the points i mentioned. I could understand it if talking about someone who's always been crap for us like Hogan, or even Lansbury for that matter.

I get that and understand completely what you are saying. Personally I would have been happy, not that I am sad, if another striker had come in who had more experience either in the premier league or a competitive european league, even if it was a loan, and I dont mean Charlie Austin! Easy for me sat at my keyboard saying this but if I was to be concerned it would be in this area. Anyway I really hope I am being a drama queen / king. Got to get this terminology correct. 

[Three Spires Villa]

He was on approx £25k a week apparently, not a massive amount but he's got no resale value after this window with his contract being up next year so maybe both just decided it was best for both him and the club to go now rather than spend the season hardly playing.

Ok thanks

[UK Redsox]

Still plenty of time to ship Tish out to a League 1 team or back to Scotland.

Also, I expect one of the keepers to go abroad

[Marlon From Bearwood]

Birkir Bjarnsson has left. Mutual termination according to official twitter.

Toon bound, would be my prediction.

[Smirker]

Belotti didn't happen then.

[richtheholtender]

So, that's our players pretty much confirmed.

Leaves us with the squad below, we need to choose twenty-five of whom at least eight must be "Home Grown". Players aged 21 or under as of 1st January 2019 don't count against the 25 so we can field as many of those as we like.

* = Home Grown
** = under-21

GOALKEEPERS
Heaton*
Steer*
Kalinic
Nyland

DEFENDERS
Guilbert
Elmohamady
Bree**
Konsa**
Engels
Mings*
Chester*
Hause*
Taylor*
Targett*

MIDFIELDERS
McGinn
Douglas Luiz**
Makamba
Lansbury*
Hourihane*
Grealish*
O'Hare**
Tshibola*

WINGERS
Trezeguet
El Ghazi
Jota

FORWARDS
Wesley
Kodjia
Davis**

29 players total, five can be discounted from the quota as under-21. Eleven "Home Grown" players so no problem there.

So yeah, basically fine. Even if Tshibola and a goalkeeper leave, as I expect. We can bring in another player in the next transfer window and up to three unless we are planning on keeping Tshibola and four goalkeepers, which seems a tad excessive.

That was a bit of a pointless exercise but killed a few work minutes as I count down to fucking off time.

If the worst does happen we can always put Mings as an emergency striker.

[eddiemunster]

Transfer window closed, except for any deals still ongoing (two hours to finalise any deals after window has closed).
So we go with what we've got,till January.

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Boooo! no extra striker Deano out. ;-)