Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread

[villadelph]

KD = Keinan Davis.. 21 years old

[Dave]

apart from Jack have we had many other players who have benefited from going out on loan to develop and improve and coming back to form part of the first team ?

Off the top of my head I don't think our record is great in regards that.

We wouldn't have been promoted last season were it not for Jed Steer.

So him.

[paul_e]

My issue here is that Davis should've been out on loan 18 months ago when we signed Grabban to replace him in the matchday squad. If we can keep Kodjia happy being a bit part player then I'd be ok with KD on loan until Christmas and then go from there.

[Villafirst]

RHM out on loan to Tranmere - not the best level for his development. One striker down, surely we'll sign someone before the deadline? Calling Neal Maupay!

[Border villan]

I hope we are setting our target higher than Maupay.

[algy]

For loans, I think the players generally aren't being loaned out soon enough, imo they need to be going out to get a few games at whatever level when they're 18/19, and have been a first team regular for a couple of seasons - either at Villa or elsewhere - by the time they're maybe 22. Instead we've been giving them a first loan out at 21/22, so they will still look a bit inexperienced when they're 23/24.

For me, Davies would benefit from a loan now, provided he's playing regularly. Kodija - he might come good in the premier league, but so far "might" isn't enough for Deano. I'd try to flog him on the back of a decent ACON and replace him with someone who's less of a gamble.

[paul_e]

For loans, I think the players generally aren't being loaned out soon enough, imo they need to be going out to get a few games at whatever level when they're 18/19, and have been a first team regular for a couple of seasons - either at Villa or elsewhere - by the time they're maybe 22. Instead we've been giving them a first loan out at 21/22, so they will still look a bit inexperienced when they're 23/24.

For me, Davies would benefit from a loan now, provided he's playing regularly. Kodija - he might come good in the premier league, but so far "might" isn't enough for Deano. I'd try to flog him on the back of a decent ACON and replace him with someone who's less of a gamble.

Exactly, you want a 21 year old to have player 50-100 senior games under their belt if you're using the loan system to develop them. Keeping them as cover (i.e. 4th or 5th choice in their position) does nothing to help them in the important 18-21 age range.

[UK Redsox]

Experience is why buying players from Scotland makes sense. Look at how many competitive games SJM had under his belt before joining

[Smirker]

I think we should be shopping in Scotland more. There are some gems to be found.

[brian green]

John McGinn has two brothers.  They could be turned over at a profit simply on their pedigree.

[andyh]

I hope we are setting our target higher than Maupay.

Agreed.

[Sexual Ealing]

I hope we are setting our target higher than Maupay.

Agreed.

Disagreed.

[tomd2103]

i hope we're not relying on Kodjia to much next season if i'm honest

Always thought he would be more of a wide player in the top flight and hope that the chance to perform in the top flight might bring the best out in him.  Can't see him featuring too much though.

[Smirker]

I'll be glad when the window is shut because waiting for news on this mythical record breaking striker is making me slightly anxious.

[Malandro]

I'll be glad when the window is shut because waiting for news on this mythical record breaking striker is making me slightly anxious.

I think our last mythical striker was Helenus.