Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread

[JJ-AV]

Butland is 6ft 5 and a big imposing fucker from what I recall, and a very good keeper when I have seen him, but £25 million just seems a lot when we have so much else to do in the team.

This is the point here.

Im very sure Purslow, Suso and Deano are aware what needs to be done. If they see that spending circa £18m on Butland is part of the plan then i'm dam sure its not having a detrimental impact on the rest of our budget for their plans.
Butland could be our number one for the next 6 years easily so £18m-£23m isnt that crazy

It is if you can buy Etheridge, Pope or Heaton for less: equally as good, if not better.
Butland would have gone for bigger money previously if people really rated him. I'm no expert on keepers, but others have sidestepped him.
Ditto, Joe Hart.

Nobody signed Grealish either.

Butland was priced out of a move because he was England number 1, had 3 years on his deal and Pickford was available for less.

Stoke wanted more money because they paid £5m for him and reportedly SHA have a share of any profit, whereas Pickford was an academy kid .

Pickford got the shirt just before the World Cup, but most expected Butland to be number 1 at the World Cup. A season in the Championship a year deeper into his deal and now he's available for a bit less.

I'm not saying he's value, but Butland is easily a top 10 Premier League level goalkeeper IMO. Butland at £20m is better value than Etheridge at £10m, IMO.

[Toronto Villa]

How about they are players the manager had identified and wants? This is someone who just a couple of weeks we all celebrated. It’s June 11th. Shouldn’t we trust the process?

[eamonn]

YOU CANT HANDLE THE PROCESS!

[mike]

This is what I hate about the premier league, stupid transfer fees and the wages that are paid to a lot of very average footballers, it is madness.

It's also why I've been a bit dismayed by the apparent domestic focus of our transfer targets so far. Surely this is not where the value is.

As far as I can tell (and based largely on Purslow's comments), I'm pretty sure our transfer strategy has been formed with one eye on the possibility that we go straight back down.

If we allow that to be the key factor then we will go straight down. It has to be taken into account and we can never go back to the days of signing the likes of Cole through to Richards, but there's a middle ground and we should be looking upwards with a sustainable plan.

[Clampy]

Let's just see how things pan out shall we? The lack of patience is unbelievable sometimes.

[mike]

Let's just see how things pan out shall we? The lack of patience is unbelievable sometimes.

I thought the 'speculation' in the title was an encouragement to speculate. It doesn't mean I expect anything to happen for a while. The key players are on the beach or playing mind games at this stage.

[AsTallAsLions]

Let's just see how things pan out shall we? The lack of patience is unbelievable sometimes.

I thought the 'speculation' in the title was an encouragement to speculate. It doesn't mean I expect anything to happen for a while. The key players are on the beach or playing mind games at this stage.

Pure speculation

[Clark W Griswold]

Calm down, an Aston Villa properly run with rich owners and a good young manager is not a yo yo club. I would be hoping we'd finish above the 3 on the south coast, the 2 other promoted teams, a sure to fall at some point Burnley and a badly run Newcastle. Even 3 out of all that lot would do.

[Mister E]

Butland is 6ft 5 and a big imposing fucker from what I recall, and a very good keeper when I have seen him, but £25 million just seems a lot when we have so much else to do in the team.

This is the point here.

Im very sure Purslow, Suso and Deano are aware what needs to be done. If they see that spending circa £18m on Butland is part of the plan then i'm dam sure its not having a detrimental impact on the rest of our budget for their plans.
Butland could be our number one for the next 6 years easily so £18m-£23m isnt that crazy

It is if you can buy Etheridge, Pope or Heaton for less: equally as good, if not better.
Butland would have gone for bigger money previously if people really rated him. I'm no expert on keepers, but others have sidestepped him.
Ditto, Joe Hart.

Nobody signed Grealish either.

Butland was priced out of a move because he was England number 1, had 3 years on his deal and Pickford was available for less.

Stoke wanted more money because they paid £5m for him and reportedly SHA have a share of any profit, whereas Pickford was an academy kid .

Pickford got the shirt just before the World Cup, but most expected Butland to be number 1 at the World Cup. A season in the Championship a year deeper into his deal and now he's available for a bit less.

I'm not saying he's value, but Butland is easily a top 10 Premier League level goalkeeper IMO. Butland at £20m is better value than Etheridge at £10m, IMO.

Well argued, and better researched than me! 

[paul_e]

Keeper is a really tough one for me.
I think Kalinic is a better keeper than we've seen so far but his confidence took a battering in the cup game and he never truly recovered. I'd keep him and try to bring him through over the next 6 months and review it in Jnuary.
Steer is, in my opinion, a reliable 2nd keeper, I'd trust him to do the job for a short run of games but I'm not sure long term because his distribution isn't great.
Nyland is the exact opposite in that he has the best distribution of the lot but just makes too many mistakes, I'd move him on if he's fit and we can get any interest.

Butland is ok but I've never been entirely convinced by him, certainly not enough to want us to pay £25m
Etheridge looks decent but I'm not convinced he's all that much better than Steer or Kalinic so £10m seems like a lot of money for a marginal improvement.
If Pope was available i'd definitely look at him, I think he's a better keeper than Butland or Pickford.

[KRS]

I’m not sure what all the fuss is about...one of the most important positions in a Premier League team is having a good keeper (can easily be worth 8-10pts). Neither of our keepers are at the standard required and I wouldn’t be confident going into the season without strengthening in this area. I won’t pretend to know much about Butland but if we do sign another keeper then I would expect either Kalinic or Nyland (or both) will be moved on in the summer.

[hilts_coolerking]

Etheridge looks decent but I'm not convinced he's all that much better than Steer or Kalinic so £10m seems like a lot of money for a marginal improvement.
If Pope was available i'd definitely look at him, I think he's a better keeper than Butland or Pickford.

On the available evidence Etheridge is a far superior keeper to Kalinic.  Kalinic was woeful.

[LukeJames]

Off the top of my head, didn't Kalinic only play in that period were by everybody was pretty horrific?

[hilts_coolerking]

Off the top of my head, didn't Kalinic only play in that period were by everybody was pretty horrific?

And yet he still stood out.

[AsTallAsLions]

In fairness his performances in the World Cup would suggest he is better than what we've seen. He was thrown into the first team immediately upon his arrival due to emergency circumstances. I wouldn't want to write him off, and my opinion is we have more pressing priorities to address elsewhere.

But whatever. In Dean we trust.